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Bomb attack at Volgograd train station

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by HoopSprings, Dec 29, 2013.

Discuss Bomb attack at Volgograd train station in the TalkCeltic Pub area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. CELTICgirlSRB

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    I hope they will come in Britain or wherever you live as soon as possible so you can enjoy in their revolution.
    And, if you can explain, are the Russians allowed to follow western example of introducing democracy and to come to the region from where those killers come from (plus, Dagestan is part of their country, not a foreign land), wipe the place or it is just a western privilege?

    Interesting, there are some rumours that favourite country of the West gave weapon for this attack, Saudi Arabia the most shining star of democracy:97:, who else. But, I suppose that is OK, because Iran, China and Russia are the problem because they don't give their resources cheap or for free. Interesting, there are many who want The Winter Olympic Games to be a failure. It is well-known.
    Plus, maybe they want to destabilize Russia because Putin won the battle for Syria, he screwed the west in Ukraine again, he is more and more powerful, and we all know who don't like it.



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    Stalin, in 1944, displaced the Chechens in Siberia and Kazakhstan. Literally the whole Chechnya was packed into trains and sent to nowhere . Half of them died on the way ( later Nikita Khrushchev returned them ). To half a century later, in the first Chechen war, thousands of Russians were killed by the same Chechen , crushed powerless to cope with a handful of armed bearded man . And then a few years later , the Russian army with Putin at the head , without any difficulty , returns Chechnya into the Russian legal system , and smote all the Chechen leaders and their successors . So just the Russian government determines when the Chechens will be strong and dangerous , and when they will be calm like the babies .
    Understand that for each super- state, terrorism is needed , so it may function , that the government had to burst upon whom to blame , and that people still live with a touch of fear in their bones , and people should be grateful that the same government that "preserves" them . Americans have created Al-Qa'ida , Bin Laden, Saddam's chemical weapons and who knows what else .
    OK, now, we are talking about Dagestan, not Chechnya, but methods are the same.
    Do you really think that Russia which allocates billions on weapons , can not wipe Dagestan out from the earth ? Georgia was crushed off in a few days .
     
  2. angusceltic67

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  3. The Lone Ranger

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    The Chechens have been trying to get independence from Russia since the break up of the USSR, why is it alright for us to support some forms of independence, i.e Palestine, Catalonia, Basque Country, Kurdistan, Ireland and not other forms.
    As far as i recall, there was plenty of civilians killed in all these fights for independence as well.
     
  4. The Lone Ranger

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    I am from Ireland, A chara.

    Can someone please explain why this fight is different than the Irish fight for independence?
     
  5. ColeraineBhoy

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    Really? There's quite a lot of support for terrorist organisations on here such as the British Army.
     
  6. Lord Gaga

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    There's a difference between supporting a nationalist cause, and supporting terrorism. I'm all for a united ireland but the omagh bomb was a disgrace. It's called differentiating
     
  7. ColeraineBhoy

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    This is a disgraceful attack on innocent civilians. Russia is a proud nation who gave us Trotsky, Lenin and my favourite ever author, Vladimir Nabokov and they will not be intimidated. Thoughts and prayers with the deceased :shamrock:
     
  8. The Lone Ranger

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    I assume you dont know the terror and turmoil the Chechen people go though on a daily basis from the Russian army.
    Do you think this bomb attack was carried out just on a whim? Absolutely not, this is a response to the murder that the Russian army is carrying out in the region, but of course that does not make the mainstream news.
     
  9. The Lone Ranger

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    In regards to the PIRA, i do, it was necessary at the time of war.
     
  10. KRS-1888 Scott La Rock

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    Do you think the Beslan school attack was justified?
     
  11. Lord Gaga

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    You're absolutely right, I don't know what they go through. However, I have zero respect for anyone who blows up innocent people in order to make a point. Take out soldiers if you have to take out anyone. People on trains or buses are easy targets. Only scum would target them. I'm sure their cause is worthy but their methods are certainly not!
     
  12. Samaras13

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    I meant me but even * friday isn't comparable to this attack as warnings were given.

    Even Brendan Hughes said this
    I doubt the * who done this would would say something like that.
     
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  13. The Lone Ranger

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    No.

    While their methods might not be, people are still failing to realise the point of this attack, it is to highlight the media onto the murder that happens in the Chechen region daily that go unreported.

    I have a feeling if this happened in Israel their would not be as much outrage on here, as that i seen as a just cause, and somehow this is not.

    You are assuming this, these people are fighting for independence, just as much as Brendan Hughes was.
     
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    Civilians were the targets in this though, in PIRA bombings the targets were the buildings, so that's the difference, morally at least.
     
  15. marti~bhoy

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    Dagestan is a hotbed of unrest and it is far more complex than a simple nationalistic struggle for independence.

    The Lone Ranger is a * disgrace if he thinks the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent men, women and children is ever justified.
     
  16. ColeraineBhoy

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    Saudi and Western-backed rebels no doubt. Wahabi scum.
     
  17. The Lone Ranger

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    But what you are still failing to understand is that this attack was a last resort so to speak for these freedom fighters.

    They obviously taught this was the only way to get the world medias attention onto the war in Chechnya.
    I will not condemn freedom fighters taking drastic action.
     
  18. The Lone Ranger

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    Not necessarily, certainly not in Chechnya.
     
  19. ColeraineBhoy

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    I'd be prepared to bet on it.
     
  20. KRS-1888 Scott La Rock

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    Will you condemn the Beslan incident?