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Ange Postecoglou

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 29, 2021.

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  1. FairDinkumMate

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    The bench was bereft ….can’t believe you’re serious or taking the *
     
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  2. Rogicisgod

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    I think Ange is making some mistakes.

    It's a mistake to have no other strikers on the bench. I also think it is a mistake to play one alone up top when the opposition drops back that deep. 32 crosses against Dundee. Only 1/32 was effective.

    As poor as Ajeti is when the ball is getting crossed when it is one on three or four he is never going to be in a position to score consistently. The goal we did score arose out of abada drifting in to make a line of two in the box.

    I think it is a mistake not to change the shape under those circumstances.

    I also think that he is being tactically exploited in the wide areas. Recently, several goals have come from the opposition using the traditional areas of the full backs which are vacant once the fullbacks are inverted.

    Additionally he has shown the he is consistently late to make sub decisions. Not once has the decision to stick with what has not worked turned out okay. Often the team has looked better after the sub has been made - soro for McCarthy is a recent example of this.

    Finally, it's a recipe for disaster playing Rogic and Turnball so much. Ange's style demands extreme levels of fitness that neither of these two possess. He is gambling here and the likely result is that they are both blunted through lethargy or worst case, one or both sustain a long term injury.

    Honestly, he has got a few problems at the moment.


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  3. rudebhoy67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    What are you talking about? Where do I mention the bench other than offer a hypothetical opinion that if we did have a stronger bench we would only see like for like substitutions.

    Read stuff properly before you reply. You only end up looking stupid.
     
  4. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    Trying to play Ralston and any of our left backs as essentially centre mid is something he could change without actually making subs. Ralston was gash at the weekend and I don't think Montgomerry passed to a Celtic player when he came on. Uniteds chance to win it at the death again exploited that weakness
     
  5. Noskeil

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    I took the same from what you wrote too, I must be stupid also.

    Taylor, GG, Forrest, do I need to go on about first team players you seem to have missed off the hypothetical list you whittle out. We don't have a strong bench even when first team players get back that bench ain't going to be up to much.
     
  6. rudebhoy67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Yes, you do look stupid then.

    Where have I disagreed that the bench is weak? In any recent post. Bearing in mind the post you are both talking about was a reply to another.
     
  7. rudebhoy67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    And what "hypothetical list" is this I've whittled out?
     
  8. Noskeil

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    Where is he going to pull this mythical striker from? We have 3 first team strikers GG, Ajeti and Griffiths. Out of which, one is injured and on is on loan at another club.
     
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    Should have been opinion, not list my apologies for that.
     
  10. Rogicisgod

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    Aren't the b team players eligible?

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  11. Mr Cleansheets

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    Disappointed not to see Shaw, Lawal, Moffat and even maybe Brooks as part of the discussion.
     
  12. Artorias

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    Needs to call out the non red card assaults and other abysmal decisions that go against us. At every opportunity, win, lose or draw.
     
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  13. Noskeil

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    Aye but theyre 15-16 year old kids, nowhere near first team. That's how shambolic the recruitment was during the summer. Joey Dawson (18) is probably the only other option but from what I've heard he's not near 1st team football.
     
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    Considering we was about 5 players short at the end of the window, and then we have about 5-7 players now out injured, it's a mystery why we haven't made a move on some names on that list.

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  15. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    Desmond obviously hasn't heard of many of the names on that list
     
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    Agree with a lot of your points but to say 1 of 32 crosses was effective at the weekend isn’t really fair. There were a good few chances created by good balls that our players failed to put away. The Ajeti sitter came from a Jota deep cross and Abada squaring it, the Ajeti header from Ralston (cross was too hard) but should have been a goal and there were a good few more Rogic header of the bar should have been a certain goal.

    We do lack a proper aerial threat but the goal we did get showed a good ball can set up a header for anyone, Abada is only 5’6 it’s whether they can finish it.
     
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  17. JamesM09

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    He'd sign the lot if they were Irish.

    Because professionally run outfit by astute businessmen etc. etc.
     
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    With this board? Sign players nae chance

    Then there's the fitness question, how long until they would be match ready.

    I keep seeing pundits saying we should sign jack Wiltshire, should we * we do not need another permanently injured player
     
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  19. saltire78

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    Mate, I get what you're saying here, but saying that he's not adapting to the players correctly is a slippery slope. You bring in a manager to change the players and move them forward, not to regress his style/philosophy to the inferior players. That Ange is having so much trouble with this is a testament to how * our standards club/team was last year, how mental our start to a season is - that was our 16th competitive game of the season already; not including the international * and also how much we've weakened with transfers out and injuries.

    This is gonna be a long haul, and it won't get any shorter/easier by our own people turning on each other. I'm not saying blind loyalty and obedience, we definitely need to light a fire under the board about January, but we need to be patient and realistic about the rebuild, and about the guy we've brought in to do it. If we knee-* or Ange starts to flip-flop under pressure, this season will join last as a pointless, negative only waste of time. We need to give Ange at least the next transfer window, and we need to tear the board out if they don't do it right, because we can't afford to keep letting it all slide like we have done
     
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  20. St.Matt

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    I agree with you up to a point but he had 3 seasons in Japan and performed well in one of them. The other two were poor. If he is struggling to get a tune out of them then it might not just be to do with the players at his disposal. Let's be honest he has failings and the jury is out. I think with our resources and quality of player we should at the very least be beating Dundee Utd at home. 3 domestic wins from 7! You have to look at the manager at some point in a run like that.