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Ange Postecoglou

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 29, 2021.

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  1. Bobo_ Gold Member Gold Member

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    Ange is going to kick up a fuss cause they added a young, hungry, athletic kid to his squad for 600k?

    And not a washed up goalkeeper, who can’t play out from the back and who can only dive to one side, onto one of his shoulders, due to injury?
     
  2. terrasidius Sonic Attack Orchestrator

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    i love ange. i believe he can be an amazing manager for us but he needs help. backing from the board.
     
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  3. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    That point makes no sense though.

    If they are poor full backs, what sense does it make to completely remove them from a basic full back position and have them cutting in to the middle? It takes them away from their default position and as they are poor players ,unable to cover it again.

    The solution to having inadequate players is to try and keep their task very simple and to provide them with cover. Not make their job harder and leave them exposed.

    Changing his ideology of his setup is not weak or anything, it's actually very smart and sensible, respectful, to show that he and the team can adapt and not be so one dimensional and quickly found out.

    Which every club already has because these two are so poor, it's blatently obvious how you beat us, one game in to the league.
    High press, pace on the wings, will do us most times.

    (Yes this is more in response to the podcast than yourself bud)

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    As I say, I'm assuming he's accepted the Hart deal with a reasonable level of thought from his side.

    But yeah, taking the scales deal as a separate issue, it would be something you'd be annoyed about I'd you're trying to force through key signings and the clubs not doing their part, but instead wasted time on another player that the manager doesn't require.


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  6. PaulM1888 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Not all signings will be scouted, seeked out and requested by the manager.

    In fact, the vast MINORITY will be done that way.

    I think it takes bare common sense only to see our goalkeeping situation is * and he’s been offered an experienced leader to resolve it and he’s probably lept up and clicked his heels with joy at the prospect.
     
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    The situations that desperate he would probably accept anyone put in front of him right now. Hart, McCarthy, anyone.
     
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    Aye that's where I'm at with it, and what I mean with my second part.

    I'm assuming this has been presented and he's given it good thought and agreed to it.

    It's clearly a deal we tried to make a few years ago that's been ressurected. As often we seem to do.
    Fully doubt he's demanded we sign Joe Hart, but given that goalkeeper probably wasn't massively high on his list (both full backs and a CB will be higher), then the opportunity being presented has probably been one he's happily agreed to.

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    Sure. Although there won’t be much time, money or resources required to do the deal. At 600k it’s not putting a material dent in the transfer kitty. He’ll be on a low salary. Desmond effectively runs both clubs, there are no serous negotiations required. It’s highly unlikely such a deal would anger Ange.

    Signing guys like Hart and McCarthy on 15k and 30k a week. That has a material impact on what other players can be signed. Much more likely to anger Ange IMO, especially if he wasn’t in favour of either
     
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    The Athletic is full of *.
     
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  11. PaddyMcCourt20

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    I get that stance mate, but I tend to agree with those on the podcast.

    A guy coming in with a specific philosophy from day one, a philosophy which was the main selling point to the supporters and players upon his hiring incidentally, that rips it up after a few negative results would be seen as weak, unfortunately. Particularly in a modern day dressing room.

    I agree you need to be pragmatic at times, but would Taylor and Ralston be better as overlapping full backs as they currently are?

    We seen the result of Taylor ‘overlapping’ last year. Is it really worth the manager compromising his system and beliefs for? I’d say not, although you make plenty of valid points.
     
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    Refusing to support the manager because that might look like supporting the board is the most addled thinking I've seen on here for a while. (And that's saying something...)

    Ange is being screwed over. Everyone knows he's being screwed over but he's clearly invested and working hard for the team.

    That's what you support - the man and his work. Withholding that support because it might seem like approval of the board will only damage Ange and therefore the team.

    * the board.
     
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    Aye, I agree there must be compromise and more room for pragmatism.

    The point is more just that Taylor and Ralston playing in a different system wouldn’t necessarily mean better results, and it’s the players we have available that are the issue more than what Ange is trying to do.
     
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    This is one of the issues I have with having a protest before the game. Where I 10000% think there should be protests, the manager and the squad need to know it’s not aimed at them. I’m not sure if the GB plan on welcoming the team off the bus first before the protest or not. I fear it may have a detrimental effect to the players, there again it could be the kick up the * they need.
     
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    That’s a lot of assumptions based on nothing. If he can’t be flexible he’ll struggle, simple as that.
     
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    So the answer is no, then?
     
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    Tough titty who else is he gonna get or afford more money needs spent on a striker when edouard goes


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    True any keeper from England better than the * we have just now if we had a different keeper that game we wouldn’t have lost simple as ....fact is this keeper will keep ange in a job


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    Keep pushing that narrative because if they field that second side a few more times they will drop points first game against a hun * like martingale and first goal offside then livi camp themselves in * easiest game they * could have had


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    They are both counter to wot the manager requires or is looking for ,hungry 20 somethings who can be coached into his system not older injured and missing in action types , but as suggested maybe he realizes results first or the pressure will rise quickly, the other issue we have and will be noted by players is the amount of effort put into our attack and press compared to the danes and diets have produced nothing , its a lot of work for no result , i hope he gets a wee rub of the green nxt game .