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Ange Postecoglou

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Mr. Slippyfist, May 29, 2021.

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  1. Mr Diggler

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    This is the biggest month we have faced in ten years. There is every possibility and indeed I almost expect us to either be playing in Europa Conference or out of Europe altogether, probably the former- either way an embarrassment. At least 6 points behind the Huns probably 8 in all likelihood. A few panic signings and Ange losing the head with journos.
     
  2. RalstonFanClubPresident

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    This seems a little premature based on literally one match.

    From what I can gather, most SPFL sides are going to sit deep, potentially be difficult to break down and are physical. Based on the Hearts match, they're also not bursting at the seams with quality. It remains to be seen how Ange's tactics will translate, but I think it's a stretch at this stage to state with any conviction that they simply, positively cannot work.

    It's also worth noting that although the game is different in Japan, they still very much have the capacity there to play long balls over the top and hit sides at speed on the break (and with better technical ability from what I've seen). Ange managed to navigate that and be successful while playing a system similar to what he's trying to implement here.

    A loss is a loss and near defeats of course count for nothing, but in evaluating the game, it's reasonable to say that we should have had a second goal that was disallowed. So that's twice their deep-sitting defence was opened up for a goal, and this isn't close to being a good example of "Angeball" yet. For all the hand-wringing about the defensive frailties of his system, balls over the top, CBs being caught 2 on 2, etc. both of their goals came from individual errors and poor marking/positioning for the set piece.

    I think the main issue at the moment, more so than the defence, is that we're currently just not looking good going forward. Possession is too slow, not a lot of chances are being created, and when they are, poor decision-making and final ball are contributing to a lack of goals. That's a problem in and of itself, but more so when you have a defence basically not fit for purpose. Hopefully with a few more additions and a bit more time, the attacking play soon starts to click.
     
  3. The Prof Administrator Administrator

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    He needs time, personally i'd give him another 2 games, if it's still nae wins then he's oot the door ! :giggle2:
     
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  4. Leone Naka Fan

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    The problem is that Japanese players are fitter, faster and more hard-working than what we have. So, the recovery ability after a long ball has been launched is better in them. In the air, they aren't good, but neither are we.

    But it's the attacking elements of his tactics that just won't work in Scotland. Teams in Japan play a higher line, and matches are more fluid. There is more space to be had. We run into a wall, which ends up in fancy passing combinations that lead nowhere. Then we lose the ball, and get done on the counter.

    One thing that Ange definitely must change, and shouldn't be hard is to play Stephen Welsh. Great interceptor of danger, which should put a dampener on long balls into space. In the air we're still *, but at least we get pace/anticipation.

    As for the park the bus tactics of our opposition? They are a hard counter to what Ange loves. I guess ordering a bunch of long shots might work?:43:
     
  5. Bobo_ Gold Member Gold Member

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    Ange doesn’t want Hart or McCarthy according to The Athletic


    Welcome both :ynwacelti
     
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    The board couldn't get their hands on the money fast enough. He didn't walk ! He was sold !!!
     
  7. G40B

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    What does ‘backing the manager’ entail exactly?

    It’s fantasy to suggest the support will clap him off the park if results continue like this, and if they did it’d be the board’s wet dream.

    I don’t buy the chat that Postecoglou isn’t a yes man. Actions speak louder than words, and thus far he’s let Strachan & Kennedy be foisted upon him and the board shortchange him on transfers.
     
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    Valid criticism. But he did call out the slow transfer dealings. Now, he can still get his staff in, and say that he was unable to work with the existing staff. But he must demanding everything, and be a pest about it.
     
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    We're a * mess. This is meant to be a rebuild. The start of a new generation under Dom and Ange. It's * destruction more like. The window closes in under a month. Where's the signings, the leadership and direction were going in. Noticed zero engagement now season tickets have been sold and the strips are out.
     
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  10. Sgt Neppers*

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    Genuine question not aimed directly at you at all. But say come end of the month, we're knocked out of Europa by AZ, lost to the huns and put out the league Cup by another defeat by the diet huns. I'm not even factoring Europa conference league either. Where do we go??? Do we stick or twist? We've seen the boards intentions first-hand for the past year. They despise us. They're slow to react and dig their heels against the fans.

    It's a massive month ahead of us. Little has changed in personal in playing and non playing staff. That was Lennons team out there essentially. They look as fit as last season also. The same rancid board are there. So so so many issues, none addressed. No end or improvement on the horizon currently.

    Its a shocking state of affairs. Raging with scumbags running our club. Despise them.

    Edit: not expecting miracles straight off and sweeping teams aside 5-0 every game, but it's hard to be positive when we aren't learning from past mistakes, living on yesterday's set up and governance.
     
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  11. MacEwan My Balls Was Hot Gold Member

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    You stick. Why the * would you twist and start again?

    No manager on the planet gets us out the hole the board put us in within the first month.
     
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  13. Sgt Neppers*

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    Yeah, I agree, playing devil's advocate to gauge response. It's a long way off and surely won't happen, but with this board anythings possible.
     
  14. Bobo_ Gold Member Gold Member

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    There’s Joseph in the door. A penny for your thoughts Ange…..
     
  15. murphy88

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    If the board are going to continue the way they are, ultimately it won’t matter if we stick or twist. No manager could work under these circumstances and succeed. Not with the amount of players we need. Maybe if we only had Aberdeen to beat we would get away with it, but I wouldn’t put my mortgage on it as it stands either by the way. Unless we see a change of board or a change in their attitude, then it won’t matter if it’s Postecoglou or any other poor *.
     
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    Ange needs to resign if he didn't want Hart, because this is mockery.
     
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    100% this is not an Ange signing, as in this is not the keeper he scouted, seeked out and requested for his squad.

    But I'm gonna presume he's accepted this/okayed it with some reasonable level of thought - otherwise there is massive concern.

    If, however, it is a signing made completely without his approval (ala shved and Rodgers) then yeah, it's bad news. Very bad news.

    But I'm inclined to think we aren't pulling that old trick with a player at this age/level. We tend to leave that for the random no mark project signings.
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  18. Mr Shelby I am the son and heir Gold Member

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    I dunno what to say anymore.

    What the actual * is going on with us. We are now in a position where the Huns could field 2 different sides which would both win the league ahead of ours.

    How has it been allowed to * happen. Its nightmarish.
     
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  19. PaddyMcCourt20

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    An excellent point made on the Twenty Minute Tim’s podcast.

    People shouting for him to stop playing the inverted full backs and therefore abandon his full system 3 games in.

    The two full backs aren’t good enough to play the conventional full back role anyway and he would lose the entire team by being seen to be weak and by not sticking to his guns.
     
  20. The Genius Gold Member Gold Member

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    There's got to be a compromise though, surely. The fullbacks * up in midfield isn't giving us any attacking advantage, at all. It just weakens us for long diagonals from countering opposition.
     
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