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Your ignoring it. Even in his "champions league team" season, his tactics were figured out by the huns. We made jokes they won only when it never mattered but facts are they had figured us out.

 

He’s gone.

“Old Firm” Peter and his pals and their pathetic * mentality is still there and you’re ignoring that this time last season we were a club with a team that could compete and hold our own in Europe’s premier competition and this season we’re struggling in the second tier Europa League and now back nearer to the level of the huns and Hearts etc.

There will be a full scale War within the club if Lawwell and his pals and their pathetic mentality continue to hang around.

 

Grow up *. You've not even spoke about what I was on about.

 

Mate he lost to Rangers twice over 2 spells as manager of Celtic. Thats hardly them figuring us out. Will easily boast the best record of any manager against them. The trophy haul speaks for itself. He's gone, move on. I'm more worried about losing to the mutants tomorrow.

 

Fact he couldnt beat russels team speaks volumes.

 

It was a 0-0 draw at Ibrox. Hardly a disaster of a result. He never lost a meaningful game against them. Lost 2 dead rubbers. Like I said, no new manager will come in here and likely ever match his record against Rangers. You can bemoan some poor performances all you like but the black and white facts state his record against Rangers is exceptional.

 

Celtic supporters thinking the issues are due to ‘Peter and Pals’ … is what is holding up genuine change. They are there to take the heat.. and paid highly to do it.

Dermot Desmond is the enemy on the inside…. that’s where anger and action should be directed. once he is gone… his sidekicks will be gone as well.

 

Not won once in the last 5 games within 90 mins isnt exactly exceptional.

 

Clutching at straws. His record is exceptional. Fact. One of those games you mentioned was a cup final which we won.

 

Just facts not straws.

 

Nice try.

 

BR have a great record against a hilariously unprecedented * hun sides and a absolutely pathetic record in the last year and a half when they have got a bit more stability

I would beat those hun sides he have been up against.

Still loved the wins but we could play 15 more under him and we would lose the majority of them. He has been hopeless for almost a year as a manager

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Excuse me jumping in.

More importantly we had lost the midfield battle in the last five Ranger's games, and we have been bullied by Raskin and Diomande.

Primarily, in my opinion, caused by not having a mobile physical CDM or at the very least a double pivot with McGregor and somebody else.

To be fair, Ange had the same issues and problems, and also persisted with the intransigent 4-3-3 system, and expected McGregor, who was a bit fitter and faster back then to carry the workload, but that never was going to work with a shyster like Hatate in the midfield alongside you. I'm pretty sure if you look back you will find Hatate featured in most of them, if all not all of the five Hun games we failed to win under Brendan Rodgers.

Hatate has been the main problem in our midfield for many years, but too many of poster fan support, thought the sun shone out of Hatate's *, when the exact opposite was/is true.

It's going to be a major issue tomorrow, unless O'Neil and Maloney, can figure out a system, formation/plan to be able to contend with it.

 

I’ll tell you something wee Honda civic; the * that need to grow up are those with the pathetic mentality that staying one step of the huns is the limit of Celtic’s ambitions.

Rodgers is gone. Lawwell and co. got their way, refused to back his vision and ambitions for the club and got rid of him. They won their wee battle but like a lot of recent hun “Old Firm” derby wins it needs to be a pyrrhic victory. We need to get Lawwell and his cronies and their pathetic old firm mentality out of the club and if they don’t go quietly and take their pathetic mindset with them, there will be a * war and they will * lose.

Oh and by the way, you used the term * there. Reminds me of the old joke about; ‘what’s the difference between a hedgehog and a Honda Civic? With a Honda Civic the * are on the inside”.

Lawwell and the other * are still on the inside Honda, they need to get the * out.

 

I don’t disagree with that that Desmond has caused serious damage in recent times. That statement from him was a shocking statement to make about any outgoing manager no matter how he performed or how it ended.

Desmond for me is an absentee landlord. He has 31 percent of the shares of the club so unless he voluntarily decides to sell those shares he can’t be got rid of. What can be done is to get Lawwell and his cronies and more importantly their pathetic parochial old firm mentality out of the club. We had a glimpse of what’s possible when Lawwell went on sabbatical and Dom McKay took over with a more serious and ambitious mindset. They got rid of him within weeks and Lawwell returned as Chairman.

We know what they’re like, they as in Lawwell et al, they haven’t gone away easily before. If they dig in again there’s going to be war. Desmond can either sell up or get on board with a more professional and ambitious board of management. A board of management that will also stand up to him if he’s out of line or if his ambition doesn’t match the potential of the club.

 

Blows me away how difficult it seems to be for some folk to grasp the concept that criticism of Rodgers is not endorsement of the board. * imbeciles man.

 

Aye, probably best discussed in the Rodgers thread anyway but some obvious failings and a poor record just don't seem to register with some.

 

He wasn't able to beat a slew of sevco jokers (managers) in over a YEAR.

Unacceptable for any Celtic manager.

Factor into that appalling stat the fact that he had a vastly superior side almost every time over his two periods, with the exception of perhaps Slippy g's side (not vastly, but still better) , which again he couldn't best, and still had a better squad of players.

He was figured out. Figured our by a Belgian muppet, a crack team of a radio dj flanked by tv pundits, and quite possibly the worst manager in their history as both Rangers and Sevco in Russell Martin.

Losses happen in football. Its only natural. But his stellar record against them is no impressive than his record against Aberdeen or Hibs.

Do you honestly think he would've had such a record against the likes of Advocaat? Or Smith? Or a sevco side with an ebt assembled squad of actual players?

Im more inclined to admire the records of MoN, Strachan, even Lennon over Rodgers. At least they actually had a challenge.

 

That is honestly hopeless stretching of the truth. His record is factual. Its just an embarrassing revision of his time here based on nothing other than a dislike of him. Read the record. 2 losses. You're complaining about losing 2 games of football that meant nothing. He can only beat what's in front of him. Its not like he's the only Celtic manager who's faced dross Rangers teams is it?

 

As another poster says this ain't the Rodgers thread. However the Rodgers chat started when posters said stuff like "not confident in any of these games v huns now...thanks Brendan...etc." Rodgers record as others have said in two terms v the huns is two defeats in dead rubbers, 4 draws and 16 wins.

The reason why we are now again reduced to an arm wrestle dogfight to win the league and win domestic battles against huns and Hearts and others is because of Lawwell and his cronies and that loser old firm honda civic mentality, not because of the now departed Brendan Rodgers who's ambitions for Celtic was to build on last years CL campaign and leave huns and the rest in Scotland for dust.

Brendan Rodgers is not and never was beyond criticism especially as the wheels came off in recent weeks, but the imbeciles are those downgrading and rewriting his record v the huns overall and in the process providing music to the ears of that rat * Lawwell and his weak minded minions with their pathetic loser mentality holding Celtic FC back. Rodgers is gone, the rat and his pals are still in the boardroom while the billionaire absentee landlord writes bitchy character putdowns of the departed manager while Lawwell and the CEO Nicholson say nothing.

Criticise a manager for poor performances etc. is fine (he's gone now anyway) but * rewriting history to suit Lawwell and his rat * pals who are still in situ guilty of holding back the ambition and progression of Celtic FC.