Aaron Mooy

I know Paartalu was huge, but I'd call him a finesse player (by A-League standards). It was all about his passing.

 

Where exactly do I, and the thousands of others that are advocating adding a cdm,say I/we are more qualified than the manager?

And the only mention of "hard men" has come from you. In your snidey wee attempt at condescension talking about " Scottish fitbaw fans(tm)" and "hard * breaking legs".

Just to clarify I wasn't actually making any point other than calling you out on your feeble smartarsery, but I'll make a point for you now. Even with Scott Brown in the side we managed to get through the CL qualifiers on at least 3 occasions I can think of. Quslified from the group stages on 3 occasions with either Neil lennon or Scott brown/Victor wanyama, beating the likes of Barcelona and man u on the way. Qualified through europa league groups on 2 occasions, winning home and away to lazio with Scott Brown in the side. It wasnt all failure and history is one of the best tools to learn from.

Even the biggest sides in Europe make effective use of cdms, including the last 4 CL finalists. If we are to make any impression in Europe we should be giving ourselves every opportunity to do so including having the options to vary our gameplan and provide variations in our personnel while not having to shoehorn players into positions thst arent natural to them. More importantly it's likely that the games against the hun will decide the league this year and we simply can't allow our midfield to be bullied in the manner it was at times last year.

Can you get those points?

 

I mean Jedinak as a anchor in midfield was pretty key during Ange's spell as Australia manager..

If I remember correctly.

 

He seems to have used 2 defensive mids regulary as part of a double pivot in his title winning season at Yokohama too.

 

Lol, * could barely get into the Aberdeen midfield last year. While Aaron Mooy was MoM getting his country to a world cup.. Yeah you really a daft *

 

By all accounts he really wanted Souza this year though. There’s a balance to having a presence that can break up attacks and effect further forward as well.

 

Was I watching a different team in Europe last season was it not Ange in charge I think as obviously others do we need a cdn ideally a wanyama type for me. The games against Bodo were an embarrassment even against Betis away as much as we played well it was a case of glorious failure in Europe ... Again.

Even looking in recent history our success in Europe has came with solid players in midfield we got to the last 16 with Robson and Hartley I like both but neither are world beaters so it's Defo not out the question to think we need a cdm

 

Oh I loved Broony, but glad to see no more sideways or backward passes anymore..

 

it’s not out the question but the betis away statement is a bit * Ange wasn’t long in the door team wasn’t upto speed Ajeti up front etc. we maybe need a CDM out and out most of the big sides have a good CDM playing

 

I only use it to prove a point it's by no means to bash the manager.

Exactly Fabinho Busquets Rodri and Casemiro all play those roles for the best in Europe and it doesn't hinder how they play as a team. I'm not saying for a second if we do get a holding mid we'll be going toe to toe to Europe's elite obviously we're a million miles away but it would definitely help us to have one especially if we manage to get in to the Europa

 

You're right. I'd ignored the Australia team. I loved Jedinak but I do wonder whether Ange would have signed him (club football).

 

I mean, you should really make sure your sentence makes sense before you call someone a daft *, you illiterate *.

 

The fans constantly moaned about Jedinak in his fading days (passing was dreadful), but Ange kept picking him - maybe just for his presence in the dressing room and his incredible penalty record. But he's not what you'd call an Ange style player (as Ange's style has evolved). Souza may well have been interesting (and multi-faceted) but probably able to do an Ange job.

 

I don't think he would have. I know Jedinak well having watching him week-in, week-out with Palace, and for all his strengths (aerially and defensively, he posted some of the very best stats for a midfielder in Europe his first season in the Premier League) he was pretty ghastly on the ball. He was an incredible leader though and Australia weren't blessed with talent at that time (or now lol) so where Ange probably wouldn't have gone out of his way to sign him for a club side, given the comparative lack of talent available to him, Mile was a key part of his national side.

I remember watching a friendly against England where we had quite a lot of possession and passes, and one thing that stood out was that in possession, Jedinak was quite stationary, whereas everybody else was making runs or showing for the ball. So despite passing being the weakest part of his game, Jedinak barely if at all gave the ball away, because he wasn't asked to do much expect make simple, short passes to teammates who were finding space.

It's similar with Tim Cahill btw, who at 35 wasn't exactly a prototypical Ange striker, but like Jedinak, Ange used him to good effect for the national side, tweaking his system and style in places in order to maximise Timmy's strengths.

 

Lads ! Remember your Celtic fans, having a chat about a Celtic player. Should never get to this stage
Steady it lads

 

This place has changed.

 

That guy is a * helmet. He’s been a * to most folk on here at one stage or another. * him.

 

Correct. It saddens me when I come on here and read Celtic fans ripping into each other.
Majority of time its about a preference of one good player over an equally good player.
Be pleasant just to park it