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Celtic to face Class Action over Boy's Club abuse

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Colin Robinson, Oct 5, 2021.

Discuss Celtic to face Class Action over Boy's Club abuse in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. wulliebad

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    People in glass houses eh.:102:
     
  2. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Been awful quiet since that winner at Pittodrie :50:
     
  3. The Phoenix Black Lives Matter

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    It might come as a great disappointment to those pretending to be concerned about the rights of victims, but even if the club is deemed to be responsible for the Celtic Boys Club, and thus legally liable, the club's insurance will be covering the costs.

    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ubs-insurance-covering-child-sex-abuse-claims

    Lawwell already alluded to this in one of his statements regarding the issue and implied this was the reason why the club is not conceding on the issue of 'separate entities'. It is the insureres who require to know the formal legal relationship, if any at all, between CFC and CBC. They will not pay out if the legal relationship cannot be established.

    Though it must be said, even if Celtic "win" in court, the optics will be so awful that the reputational damage will be pretty substantial and long-lasting.

    You'd have a situation where kids who played in green and white hoops, under the Celtic banner, were abused by men - some of whom had a close association with the hieracy of Celtic FC - and yet never got justice because of a technical legal separation between the two entities. Legally that may sound logical but morally and in terms of PR, it's absolutely atrocious.
     
  4. McChiellini..

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    Aye that's making loads of sense..

    So you've gone from waffling about us potentially going out of business and then trying to be funny in this of all thread's..

    Take the L ya * mutant and sit down..
     
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  5. McChiellini..

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    So we won't be going bust?

    Poor @wulliebad
     
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  6. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    They just canny help themselves when it comes to this subject.
     
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  7. wulliebad

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    Back...been here for 15 years, so take your implications and shove them.
     
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  8. wulliebad

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    Its amazing in here, even after all this time the minute you have a different point of view or opinion you get branded a hun.
     
  9. Breathnach67

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    That’s for * f*cking sure…..


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  10. saltire78

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    I was thinking similarly... A sizable contribution to Rape Crisis and some Child Abuse charities.

    Christ, if they opened a fan contribution site and said club would match it, up to say about £3-4M, we'd absolute smash the target...

    Trick is doing it without incriminating themselves, and it's absolutely impossible while there's any ongoing legal cases; singular or collective, without the victims signing away their cases, and that's NEVER gonna happen
     
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  11. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Patter like this is honestly disgusting considering what we’re talking about.
     
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  13. saltire78

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    * you talking about? Their entire premise for refusing to compensate is that they're not liable... Doesn't matter a * what any of us think, they're not gonna change that without a court ruling. Stating that they would (maybe) do something if not admitting liability is 100% valid. That they won't deviate from legal advice on that position is just a fact!
     
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    Didnt we have a test case last year sometime and we paid out some compensation? I am sure…
     
  15. Sean Daleer Free Palestine Gold Member

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    Did we? Should be easy enough to find with a google search.

    Just did. Seems this test case is part of this same class action.

    Putting aside my feelings on this for the moment, lawyers like the ones pursuing this should be utterly ashamed of themselves. This ghoul Maguire cares nothing for the victims, he was playing this case out in the press well over a year ago.

    Class actions in the US usually end up with a vampire lawyer getting very rich and the victims getting very little. Seems like this is now going to be a feature of UK law. Disappointing.
     
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    And "patter" like that is unrealistic, foolish and wankerish.

    As already stated, by phoenix, insurance will be the one to pay out. Unless the liability is PROVEN, which it is unlikely to be, then the victims get nothing.

    But go ahead. Act the social justice warrior a you want.

    "Let justice be done though the heaven fall" aye mate?
     
  17. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Yes because not describing helping the victims as a ‘trick without incriminating themselves’ is acting like a social justice warrior.

    You’re last sentence literally makes no sense considering what I was replying too. If it was simply about justice people wouldn’t be describing getting away with any criminality as a trick.

    Don’t try and act intelligent. It doesn’t suit you.
     
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  18. Sean Daleer Free Palestine Gold Member

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    To be honest mate, although the wording is utterly horrendous he has a point. It’s something we probably should have done a long time ago. Something like this...

    We admit this went on, however even though the boys club was not part of the official football club we did have a tenuous working relationship with them of some sorts and therefore would like to set up a fund for the victims, a charity for all abuse victims and all the counselling the victims may need.

    Something like that decades ago and all today would be is some creepy huns howling at the moon and embarrassing themselves with their weird obsession with child abuse. And it is * weird. Some of the stuff I seen on their forums back when I used to subject myself to that was disturbing. It wasn’t even sympathy for the victims, they had photoshops of statues and various pictures doing unspeakable things. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. Even on here we might get heated at times but never anything like that. It wasn’t even just some random posting it before getting roundly slagged and the pic removed. They are all nodding with dignity, well said William, all partting themselves on the back for something they must have thought was making fun of us but was clearly a psychoanalysts wet dream. It was utterly bizarre.

    Clearly the wording was poor, very poor from Saltire but I think he meant well. We have ignored this too long. Nothing we do now will seem sincere.
    Shame.
     
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  19. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Disagree mate. I think it’s crass as * looking at it like that.

    This is the most horrific crime you can commit for me. Saying the trick is to get away without criminality almost sounds like ‘how can we come out of this looking like the good guys’. That’s the type of patter you heard from the Huns when it came out there wasn’t any record of them ever reporting it to the police when they claimed they did. ‘We done our job. We done nothing wrong’.

    It’s irrelevant. When it comes to child abuse everything needs exposed, warts and all.

    You’re last point is bang on. It feels like we’ve basically tried to ignore the victims and hope they won’t go public with it and now they have we’ve closed shop. Apologise, compensate, admit the mistakes and make sure they never happen again. Then let the public go after everybody involved in it because this went from the bottom right to the very top of Scottish football.
     
  20. Sean Daleer Free Palestine Gold Member

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    Legally there might be no criminality though. There is actually a fairly decent chance of that being the case. It doesn’t mean we couldn’t have done something decades ago though.

    Just because you can legally separate the two entities does not in any way disprove there was an agreement there to develop players and at the very least a working relationship between board members at the time and those running the boys club.

    That is why we should have done something years ago. Legally Not responsible? Possibly. Acknowledge there was a link however flimsy and seek to help the victims. Anything now will just seem like lip service.
     
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