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Aberdeen 1 - 2 Celtic

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Henrik 07, Sep 30, 2021.

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  1. George Theodorou

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    No way was that a red or a yellow card. That ref is an idiot. Porteous won that ball and the Rangers player made a meal of it, I would also say that he barely touched the guy. if at all. What was the linesman doing ? You could see from the reaction by Porteous that it was an unfair decision. How can you give a red card when there was barely any contact, if at all ?

    Rangers players are obviously instructed to go to ground at the slightest suggestion of a contact to win a foul in their attacking half and also hopefully get an opposing player booked. Obvious South American stuff - thanks Gerard ! Porteous won that ball fairly given where that ball was after he won it - nowhere near where he got it and in an advanced position showing that he had possession of it. There was no obvious contact with the Rangers player. Dirty cheat !

    The real problem is that this is a regular Rangers tactic for some time now and refferees are not picking up on it and keep giving them these free kicks. Too many of these guys are more interested in giving their own drama show to the public instead of doing their job objectively as they should.

    I have yet to see a card given for simulation in a SPL game so far. Does it happen ?
     
  2. George Theodorou

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    You just said he did not make contact with Aribo - thus no card at all mate !
     
  3. George Theodorou

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    Really ? A good spine has also got a dominating defender. Who do we have there at present ?
     
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    To be fair, we have a solid keeper, CCV looks sound, Croat RB, Jota & Gogo up top and CalMac.
    I know its only 6 but its something to build around. Aussie Tam, Forrest and Turnbull can also make significant contributions.
    Its just that, outside that group, all others are either unproven or are totally just not up to it.
     
  5. George Theodorou

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    Do not like it at all if it is not done properly and from a proper place on the pitch. When I see the ball in the 6 yard box or even closer to Hart's goal line no one in this world is going to convince me that there is a logical reason to do this. Also when you are trying to play out from near the corner flag. Hart makes me very nervous when he does this because he looks like a stork with football boots.

    Even on the 18 yard line is too close for comfort, especially with indecisive Starfelt on the ball - Beckenbauer he is not !
    Seems an unecessary risk in my book. Who are you drawing out of position, two forwards ? Where is the tactical advantage in that? I think playing riskily out from the back is an advantage to the opposition.

    One slip or hesitation or miss-kick and you are a goal down. Proof of that was in the first minutes against B.Leverkusen.
    Starfelt especially is as jittery as a horse before a cavalry charge at the back, for the first 20 minutes of each game he plays in.
    It is scary to watch.

    Can't think of any team that attempts to play out from the back that close to their own goal line. When it goes bad, as it will eventually, Ange is going to cop a bucket of * and the boos will start.
     
  6. George Theodorou

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    Not sure if you mean unproven at Celtic so far.
    Giakoumakis was top scorer in the Dutch Eredivise last season with VVV Venlo, who in fact got relegated that year.
    This tells me this guy is something special and Ange has got him under wraps till he decides to play him and give him game time.

    George Giakoumakis is also a Greek international with 6 caps, and has scored one WC goal for his country against Georgia.
     
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  7. Sin

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    Ah he's a Greek international!

    Nothing could possibly go wrong then.. :fear:
     
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    How do you mean special? Guy had one good season in his career and at 26 isnt just the youngest anymore.

    Btw his one goal for Greece was in a friendly game against Cyprus. He played against Georgia 19mins where he didnt score. https://www.transfermarkt.be/georgi...ler/234850/hauptwettbewerb/WMQ/verein_id/3378
     
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    Better an international than not an international . However if you do not want a player who has scored against better teams in Holland than Venlo then that is your choice. Both home and away. You can check those teams for yourself. Ange must know something that others do not. Here's hoping Giakoumakis does the business this season and proves his doubters wrong.

    The Greek national coach is a former Ajax player and Dutch international.
     
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    I actually live in the Netherlands so I can tell you it's not called "Holland", "Holland" is a region in the Netherlands.
    I also know all about his scoring, I will also say, I think you missed my joke about him being a Greek international and nothing going wrong, given the goalkeeper we signed recently!
     
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    You don’t need to make contact with a player to have it deemed as dangerous foul play. For example, if you go and lunch on with two feet and make zero contact, it’s still a red card.
     
  14. George Theodorou

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    I am not sure that is correct but I will keep an open mind. If there is no contact, there is no offence. A referee is not in a position to predict the intention of a player to harm when no harm has actually be done. Rangers players are known to fall on cue at the slightest breeze or the slightest touch on the shoulder.
     
  15. George Theodorou

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    Ok. Internationally The Netherlands and Holland denote the same country so I do not understand the issue here. In World Cup games it is Holland on the fixture. Also known as the Dutch Low Lands in the past.

    Barkas was a signing that should not have happened. Obviously a board signing based on only his performance for AEK Athens against Celtic. I have not checked but his national appearances would be minimal. Giakoumakis has the runs on the board with the goals he scored at Venlo and 36 in one season in the Eredivisie can not be ignored. Ange was keen to get him and he did. Now it up to the player to justify that decision, on the pitch, with how well he plays for Celtic.
     
  16. George Theodorou

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    I stand corrected - he scored against Cyprus in a 2-1 win for Greece in his first game, November 2020.
    I had checked the national team info showing he had one goal in total and his last game had been against Georgia.
     
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    Apologies - 26 goals, not 36 goals.
     
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    I just looked up Barkas. Has played 13 times for the national side and 80 games for AEK Athens before signing for Celtic.

    On paper he looked a good buy but he has shown that he is not what is required at Celtic. Reasons ?

    Settling into a new country, new environment, new language, new attitudes, new expectatations ? I would expect that all players coming from a new country would go through this period - so what is it ? Personal problems ?

    One can only guess. There could be one reason or a combination of reasons.

    Was he treated badly by Lennon since he was signed ?
    Did he have a defense that played badly and he could not communicate with and who did not support him when he was playing ?
    A loss of form and/or being savaged by the local media for his performances ?
    Has he lost his hunger and got complacent given the good conditions and contract/salary that he is on ?
    Have his fellow players ostracised him for some time and he feels unwanted but wants to see out his contract because the money is too good to walk away from and will not find similar if he goes back to Greece. Would rather go to another European club ?
    Was he getting enough specialist goalkeeper training last year to keep his skills at the proper level ?
    Was he simply part of the general depression of the whole squad last season ?

    I have not watched him play before this season. From what I have seen of him this season I am not impressed.
    What was he like last season ? Good points and the negative points.

    Anyone out there that can enlighten me with an objective response ?
     
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    I think you are still missing the joke, I even put a :fear: at the end as well, never mind this turned into too much work.....

    You are right, the national team is for the most part referred to as 'Holland', the country is however 'The Netherlands' anyone saying otherwise is wrong. :50:
     
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  20. Belgian_lad

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    are you Dutch Celtic fan or Scottish and living in The Netherlands? Going to Leverkusen away?