Kieran Tierney

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Especially when the other team are attacking.

 

Even putting the sentimental stuff of his rapport with us and his love of the club aside we're still losing much more than one of our top assets. On the park, training, changing room.....he's one of us, he gets it, he's a leader!! Now that might mean * all to Arsenal et al but by * we should trying to make the * pay through the nose for our potential loss!! He's not just a brilliant LB to us.

 

Arsenal are absolutely the worst possible team to sell him to.

25M is a joke for Tierney, he is easily worth double that, but obviously we're not in a position to demand 40-50M. So we need to make up the shortfall with a sell-on clause.

The issue with that is that Arsenal like to let their players contracts run out, then leave on a free. We could easily be losing out on an extra 5-10M of his value.

We just can't afford to risk losing out on that kind of sum of money. Especially since Arsenal is the level of club we'd be expecting him to get sold on to, once he's at Arsenal that severely limits the number of clubs who will be able to buy him.

Not only that, but there is a chance that we could meet Arsenal in the Europa League at some stage. We'd be selling one of our best players in a cut price deal to a direct competitor.

For all the noises you hear about Lawwell being a shrewd operator and great with finances, the way this has been handled smacks of short-sighted opertunism, and making a quick buck, much to the detriment of the club.

 

He is also a stick on future Celtic captain

 

CELTIC goalkeeper Craig Gordon has backed Kieran Tierney to live up to his price tag if a big-money move to Arsenal goes through before the end of the transfer window.

The English side are believed to have once again renewed their efforts to prise Tierney away from his boyhood club by restructuring the £25m offer that was rejected by Celtic last week.

Having made his own move to England back in 2007, signing for Sunderland for a then record British fee for a goalkeeper of £9m, Gordon knows the expectation that Tierney would have to live up to if he too should move south of the border.


But he is in no doubt that the 22-year-old has both the temperament and the ability to be a success in the English Premier League.

“We don’t quite know what’s happening with Kieran as yet,” Gordon said. “We’ll see how things pan out in the last few days of the window.

“But he’s got all the ability in the world, Kieran. He’s also got the work ethic to go down there and be successful. He’s got the desire to be the best he can be in every single training session and every single game.


“He leads in all the stats, one of the top two or three in that. That’s because he pushes himself so hard. It’s a great thing to have in anybody’s team.

“It’ll be great for us if he does stay and continues to play as he has done because he’s been so consistent for so many years now.


But if he goes then it’s a great price tag. It’ll need to be big because he’s so good.”

Gordon believes too that Celtic have been right to hold out for their valuation of Tierney, and that his market value shouldn’t be lessened simply because he is coming from a club in Scotland.

“For a Scottish player it is a big price tag,” he said. “But then you look at some of the other players going for bigger fees.

“You can’t say Kieran isn’t worth that kind of money. Listen, my fee looks tiny these days in comparison to the deals getting done now, but that’s just the way it’s gone with the market values in the game.

It is what it is, and I don’t think anyone can put the price tags on the players’ shoulders. It’s nothing to do with them.

“A £25m player could have been £5m a few years ago. That’s just what it is so we almost have to put that to one side and not look at the figures and only concentrate on the ability of the player. And Kieran has everything you’d want in a modern day full-back.

“Whoever manages to get him playing for them this season is lucky because he’s going to be a massive player for us or anybody else

 

This is hurting if true.
He is minimum 40 million pound player. Why sell him for 20 million. 15% sell on & 1 million every year arsenal make champions league...... it makes no sense. Please dont go KT
If arsenal want him its 35million at the very least.

 

Wish he’d grow a set of balls and come out and tell us what’s going on.

Shows off how close he is to the fans and how he is one of us but when only when it suits, meanwhile every rag in Britain is printing stories about the club and the fact we are losing him with nothing coming back to us.

He’s a spongo

 

Can’t halt progress. There won’t be many full backs that have ever went for more and begrudging him the move is very small minded. Near enough £30m for a Scottish left back is insane, comparisons to any transfers in England don’t matter at all.

We aren’t in a position (league) to command £50m transfer fees.

It’s brutal and unfair but that’s the reality of the big fish in the small pond.

 

I understand your point but we should stay clear of the mentality that being Scottish or playing in Scotland should automatically devalue a player. I know it’s a fine line between getting the best fee and not pricing a club/player out of a move (which obviously has negative knock on affects), but £25m for a player of Tierney’s ability, is low, in the current market.

 

He's probably been advised not to say anything either way.

 

Think it’s poor from him and the club to be so secretive around the move, he’d a huge player for us and they know people will be getting kits with his name on it for certain. We should know more than the stupid line of everybody has a price which is what we got.

However we are in a position to say you’ve 4 years left on your contract you’re going nowhere, yet again the club are going to set us back on the pitch for the sake of keeping the bank balance at a number they can look at and smile.

 

I wish that playing in Scotland didn’t automatically devalue a player but the stark reality is that it does. The only way we change that is through success stories like Van Dijk. He has to be one of the reasons we’re now selling to the next tier of football clubs, cutting out the middle men. And that is real, tangible progress. That takes us up a level as a club. We really just need to be patient, sadly. If Tierney goes on to be what we all know he could be then imo we go up a level again when selling our assets. Maybe then we get closer to a players true value. It’s still early days for our development as an elite selling club.

 

Fair enough, but think it's harsh calling him a spongo, don't think he's done much wrong.

 

We could but I don’t see what that does to develop our brand as a place for promising youth to showcase their talent before moving to the next level. Refusing moves never really works out + someone like Tierney shouldn’t be forced into that position. It’s a short career, he’s already had more than his fair share of injury trouble. He can’t take anything for granted. I’d rather he left now on good terms and came back later.

Everything I’m saying goes out the window if the board don’t keep climbing the ladder of purchasing a higher bracket of player once we sell but in the grand scheme of things we have started to do this with Eddy and CJ being the obv examples.

 

Resigned to the fact we're going to sell him and struggle till deadline day to bring anyone in, then announce a loan deal for some 18 year old from Man City on the final day of the window.

 

If Tierney was at Porto or Ajax he wouldn't be leaving for as little as £25 million

 

I see your point about us trying to attract promising players with the idea that we will eventually sell them on but I don’t apply that to this potential transfer personally.

He was produced here and that along with all the * he’s been doing since he came through with the fans and promoting himself among the support by trying to make out he’s Celtic through and through but not long after he signs a long contract and just before the potential to secure one of the biggest achievements in the clubs history it looks like he’s out the door without even saying a word.

I really like KT but this whole transfer saga is making me compare him to Rodgers and feeling like they’ve played the support in a similar way.

Before anyone suggests it I’m not saying every Celtic supporter to play for us has to spend his entire career here, just sayings I think if this is when he leaves he has gone about it in the wrong way and chosen a bad time.

 

Probably right.

If it does happen like that I'm done. The board will not get 1 more penny from me

 

Do you just want to be sitting in on the meetings? You only care and want to know what’s happening because it’s KT. Both clubs, the player and his agent are conducting the business as they are meant to. Why would they be giving out any information? How do you know KT even knows whats happening? As far as we know the clubs are still negotiating which means they aren’t even talking to him yet. He’s absolutely been advised to stay quiet because it’s a lose/lose situation for him. If he gives us hope and then leaves, he will be hated by some of the support. If he says he’s leaving, he will be hated by some of the support.

We aren’t telling a player he’s got 4 years left he’s going nowhere. Why would you want players being forced to stay here and play? That causes nothing but problems. Then you’re probably losing a player for free down the line or not seeing £25m talked about again.

Comparing him to Rodgers? He’s the polar opposite.