Hooper vs Griffiths

Made the same thread 6 odd months ago. Has opinions changed?

 

So, a year ago?

 

Hooper.

 

Griffiths is yet to make any real mark in European football for us, so Hooper for now.

 

Hooper, better all round footballer.

 

Gary Hooper :- Played 138 goals 82 = He scored in 59.42% of games.
Leigh Griffiths :- Played 85 goals 49 = He scored in 57.64% of games.

Hooper just edges it for the moment.

 

Hooper.

 

Gary Hooper. Comfortably.

 

I always think that goals and games don't tell the full story, because an appearance can mean a 5 minute cameo. If we take do it in goals per minute, which is more accurate...

Hooper - 11,060 minutes, 82 goals, a goal every 133 mins, and 30 assists, which is an assist every 368mins.

Griffiths - 5,344 minutes, 49 goals, a goal every 109 mins, and 16 assists, thats one every 334 mins.

But, tbh...I still think Griff lacks the all round game of Hooper(on the deck I mean). I think Hooper is better, or was when h was here.

 

Hooper: 138 games, 127 starts, 82 goals, 30 assists.
Griffiths: 85 games, 59 starts, 49 goals, 16 assists.

From 127 starts, Hooper has been involved in 112 goals.
From 59 starts, Griffiths has been involved in 65 goals.

They both have outstanding records. I'd go for Griffiths - love his attitude and think he's a better all-round player. Imagine having both in the same team though.

 

Griff...he aint looking to move every window.

 

I've always said Hooper and still probably lean slightly towards him when it comes to this debate but it's closer than it's ever been for me. Leigh's work rate right now and consistency with goalscoring in particular is key for us.

 

Comparison of their finishing stats...

Gary Hooper Celtic Stats 2010-2013
SPL 187 shots 128 On Target 63 goals
Cup 37 Shots 27 On Target 12 Goals
Europe 18 Shots 11 On Target 7 Goals
TOTAL 242 Shots 166 On Target 82 Goals

By season
10-11
SPL 45 Shots 34 On Target 20 Goals
Cup 8 Shots 5 On Target 1 Goal
Europe 1 Shot 1 On Target 1 Goal

11-12
SPL 61 Shots 46 On Target 24 Goals
Cup 13 Shots 10 On Target 3 Goals
Europe 5 Shots 3 On Target 2 Goals

12-13
SPL 81 Shots 48 On Target 19 Goals
Cup 16 Shots 12 On Target 8 Goals
Europe 12 Shots 7 On Target 4 Goals

Leigh Griffiths Celtic Stats 2014-now
SPL 161 shots 89 On Target 36 goals
Cup 19 Shots 14 On Target 9 Goals
Europe 40 Shots 16 On Target 4 Goals
TOTAL 220 Shots 119 On Target 49 Goals

By season
13-14
SPL 35 Shots 17 On Target 7 Goals
Cup 0 Shots 0 On Target 0 Goal

14-15
SPL 53 Shots 28 On Target 14 Goals
Cup 6 Shots 6 On Target 6 Goals
Europe 8 Shots 3 On Target 0 Goals

15-16
SPL 73 Shots 44 On Target 15 Goals
Cup 13 Shots 8 On Target 3 Goals
Europe 32 Shots 13 On Target 4 Goals

Griffiths
54% of shots went on Target
22% of shots were Goals
41% of shots on Target were Goals

Hooper
69% of shots went on Target
34% of shots were Goals
49% of shots on Target were Goals

Hooper scored 2 penalties for us, Griffiths has scored 5 penalties.

 

Brilliant records for both. As you say the goals per minute is more accurate & that has Griffiths out in front. As we keep being reminded as well is that Hooper played in a better team than Griffiths so does that make his tally even more impressive than Hooper's?

 

To be honest I always find these stats pretty meaningless. I like that Griffiths is willing to have a dig from positions that Hooper wouldn't let's be honest. Hooper would rarely shoot outside 20 yards.

Don't get me wrong he was a cracking finisher, more clinical. But I like Griffiths willingness to pull the trigger. I don't think it's necessarily a negative

 

Good amount of stats there. The bolded makes Hooper look more clinical but I think that's down to the sheer amount of shots Griffiths takes. He has so many long range shots, for the most part Hooper never did that.

 

Great stats ILTC

I knew Hooper was better in Europe but I didn't realise he was that much better. 34% all round seems like a pretty good ratio, you know what top strikers generally achieve?

 

Interesting that Griffiths has hit 51 more shots already this season than he did last season but has only scored 2 more goals than he did, only actually 1 more from open play as hes scored a penalty more this season. Mostly down to Europe though where he only scored 4 from 32 shots at goal.

Biggest difference between the two is their European stats. Hooper managed 7 goals from 18 shots in Europe to Griffiths 4 goals from 40 shots

One of the important things about Hooper for us was he was highly clinical against all opposition, in Europe and against the huns even more clinical he only hit 10 shots against the huns and scored 5 goals.