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http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...nvited-to-celebrate-the-orange-order.25672646

Friday 24 October 2014

THE Orange Order has offered an unprecedented invitation to the Catholic Church to attend an event celebrating its heritage and culture.

THE Orange Order has offered an unprecedented invitation to the Catholic Church to attend an event celebrating its heritage and culture.

GERRY BRAIDEN

The organisation, whose existence is based on the military victory by the Protestant King William Of Orange over forces led by the Catholic King James II more than 300 years ago, is planning a full day's programme in Glasgow next June.

"Orangefest" has been billed as an "opportunity to gain an understanding of the cultural heritage and modus operandi of the Orange Lodge as a whole" and is scheduled for George Square.

The organisation is to extend an invitation to the Catholic Church, as well as the leaders of other faiths and all politicians in the city.

Although the ex-Grand Master of the Orange Lodge Ian Wilson and Archbishop Emeritus of Glasgow Mario Conti had a good relationship and met on several occasions, it was only at formal events organised by other agencies.

Authorities on sectarianism have welcomed the move as a small but symbolic step. Several sources have said it could also provide a public relations boost to the often controversial body, as well as assisting it in addressing equality and diversity issues.

The Catholic Church said it had not yet received an invitation and would consider the proposal once that had happened. Meetings have taken place with representatives of Glasgow's Muslim community.

The organisation also held a "doors open" event in Coatbridge in 2012, but has been encouraged to take similar events into more public spaces than Orange Halls.

Eddie Hyde, Grand Master of the County Grand Orange Lodge Of Glasgow, said: "We are part of the community and want to be seen as such. We are trying within the organisation to do what we can to be positive and are aware people only know us through marching.
"Of course we would be disappointed if our invitations were not accepted and this was not seen as a positive step. This is an attempt to break down some divides."

Mr Hyde added it had been his long-term aim to open up the Order further and that contact had been made with Irish heritage groups about participation in St Patrick's Day events.

Dr Michael Rosie, of Edinburgh University and a member of the Scottish Government's expert group on sectarianism, said: "The Orange Order is generally seen as an overly defensive and insular organisation, and one that, to many critics, hides a political agenda behind a veneer of religion. This initiative opens up the Orange door and focuses on building relationships. In that sense this is a brave initiative, one that emphasises the faith elements of the Order, and one that should be welcomed as a small but crucial step towards dialogue."

Dave Scott, of anti-sectarian charity Nil By Mouth, said: "Sectarianism has always been fuelled by a fear of difference and anything with the potential to help bridge this fear is worth exploring. However, if the Order wishes this idea to be taken seriously and not just seen as a publicity stunt it must also show a willingness to engage with the Catholic community within its own environment rather than simply invite them to an Order event."

Glasgow City Council said it was aware of the Order's plans, adding protocols for the use of George Square generally dealt with technical issues, such as insurance.
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Stupid propaganda stunt or a clever ploy by the Lodge to make the Catholic Church and other religions appear to be the bad guys if they don't accept the invite?

Even if this does go ahead I can't see the majority of Orange * wanting to be seen, let alone standing next to any Fenians or Catholics. Will party tunes be silent for the day? No Pope banners banned?

Lion1961, Oct 24, 2014

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Might pop along n spoil the party:icon_mrgreen:

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surely its a massive contradiction in terms of the whole ethos of the orange order as catholics are not allowed join and members arent supposed to enter a catholic church. And they are against roman popery in all its forms.

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In other news, the KKK have invited a few black families to their next meeting.
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Why does Scotland have to keep making space for this tribe at the expense of the taxpayer??

Wonder what 12 year old will get a chibbin' this time...

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ORANGEFEST?! Who the * authorised that?!!!

The authorities should be curtailing this mob's public activities not encouraging them.

This strikes me as a hollow gesture as it will not be supported by many of the "troops". Are we really to believe that the kind of hate filled, bigoted * that attends these events in their Hun top and waving a Union Jack really wants a load of 'Taigs' to turn up at their event and join in? Sorry but that's too much of a stretch for my imagination.

You couldn't pay me to attend an Orange Order event and I would advise any Catholic thinking of attending this to reconsider. Unless you enjoy a good kicking that is, in which case go ahead.

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Never going to happen.

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Somebody post the Jason Bateman speechless Gif here eh?

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You gonna be internet famous soon bra.

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It was a joke not a suggestion.

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Very progressive.

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This suggestion makes me feel sick..

They should not be given a platform to even suggest such a perverse notion..

Sectarian and should be banned..

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Kiko 7 said: ↑

Why does Scotland have to keep making space for this tribe at the expense of the taxpayer??

Wonder what 12 year old will get a chibbin' this time...

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See I was told she actually started whatever kicked off so she was asking for it

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"UP THE RA!"

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I wouldn't want to stand anywhere near that screeching bunch of knuckle draggers. I don't even like the sound of it a from my window when its a mile away. They can all * each other, annoy people and do their secret handshakes on their own. Its the most pointless backward thing possible, why the * would anyone with a brain cell embrace it? It needs banned or they can walk around a desert island full of man eating animals. Lets see if they embrace it, or if they do what the majority of decent people would want them to do and eat the *!

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well im a * and I wouldn't go near any of they bastarts gatherings .

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