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James McCarthy

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Gioventu, Aug 3, 2021.

Discuss James McCarthy in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    The fact Bitton is ahead of him in the pecking order speaks volumes IMO.
     
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    That he's up to speed?
     
  3. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    If McCarthy isn’t up to speed to come on when games are dead and keep the ball then it’s even worse than I thought.
     
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    We're clearly being careful with him and rightly so..

    It isn't like he's on the bench and no getting on, he isn't even being named..
     
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    Yeah he seems to be getting stick when he isn’t playing either.
     
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    I've seen it quite a bit. Bizzare..

    It isn't his fault he was offered a 4 year deal either..
     
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  7. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    That makes me think it’s simply down to pecking order.

    If it was simply about getting him up to speed and not about being out of favour then he’d be on the bench and we’d be using him when the games done to build him up.

    It’s not like he hasn’t played for us yet.
     
  8. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    We signed him on 3rd of August, how long does it take to get him up to speed?

    Ange praising the work of others in the international break, no mention of McCarthy..

    You would have expected him to be in the squad for Motherwell..

    Not writing him off either, but it's not looking great so far.
     
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    Liam Scales and Giakoumakis have been used very sparingly as well. They aren’t getting the same stick.
     
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    four year contract......his agents a genius.The guy is in a heap.

    People say he cant run and their write and i suspect thats down to the fact that if he runs hard or pushes himself to hard he,ll do himself an injury.

    Credit to him for getting a four year contract but it was a bad deal from the clubs point of view.Hope he proves us all wrong (as he seems to be genuinely want to be here)but i dont think he will.
     
  11. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    How is saying behind looks to be ahead of him in the pecking order giving him stick?

    And if it’s about people talking about the four year deal then it’s fair to be criticised.
     
  12. JC Anton Get yer, hats, scarfs badges & tapes

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    Both were on the bench v Motherwell tho mate with Giakoumakis getting some game time..

    Where's McCarthy? He's also one of our top earners too...
     
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    So he's been frozen out already?

    I doubt that. Ange mentioned before about managing player's correctly..

    He had no pre season and was without a club. Obviously had his injury problem's so no doubt with no pre season, he's probably having to be eased in even more..

    We probably realised that after his run again the likes of Livi etc that it was too soon. McGregor was injured though. Soro was fouling with every tackle and Bitton wasn't even still classed as a centre half before then..
     
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  14. Valhalla Thus spoke Batistuta.

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    Who said frozen out?

    Again if it was simply about getting up to speed I don’t see why he wouldn’t be on the bench. Johnston is more of a risk physically just now yet was straight onto the bench and gametime as soon as the game was done.

    Giakoumakis was that far off playing he pulled up in the warmup but is still getting used as soon as possible.

    I don’t think it’s anything to with getting up to speed to be honest.
     
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    Frozen out or dropped. Doesn't matter what one it is both the same..

    We're only speculating but McCarthy is older than Mikey and Giakoumakis and has had more long term injuries, plus no pre season. It makes sense why we'd be more careful with him, particularly when we've invested decent money in to a 4 year deal..
     
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    Mate there’s a world of difference between those two to be fair :giggle1:

    Johnston had a serious injury, got done first week or so of preseason, then done on his comeback but it’s still involved straight away. I’d say Johnston’s injury record is far worse than McCarthys as well.

    I just don’t think it’s anything to with getting up to speed at this point. He’s had chances and been woeful. It’s not like it’s a given McCarthy is going to be some sort of guaranteed starter here. He’s done absolutely nothing for years even when he was fit.
     
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    No matter what happens, a 4 year deal was beyond stupid for a 30 year old who is Injury prone.
     
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    He was a sick note before he joined and no other club seem interested and we give him a 4 year deal you can see the club hasn't a head of recruitment and we need one pronto .
     
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    I mean both are the same outcome = you're no playing..

    I just don't see any other reason why he'd be bombed out already unless he was being carefully managed..

    We'll soon see what one it is with the volume of game's coming up. The manager will no doubt be asked if he's still out of match day squad's..
     
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    The pretty obvious reason could be he’s been awful when he’s played.