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Do you wish to reinstate Wanyama1967/Finnybhoy?

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by The IRA, Jul 4, 2019.

Discuss Do you wish to reinstate Wanyama1967/Finnybhoy? in the TalkCeltic Pub area at TalkCeltic.net.

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  1. Spring Time Gold Member Gold Member

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    I definitely didn’t, commiserations.
     
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  2. Liam Scales Gold Member Gold Member

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    And I’ve already said there’s a major difference been a laugh and abuse or harassment which are covered under the law just now.

    Earlier you brushed off my small argument, are you trying to say nobody has been abused for being smaller?
     
  3. Spring Time Gold Member Gold Member

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    * me half pint & ginner are at it
     
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    Absolute scum mate. No other words for them.

    Was on a bus today and some manky ginger pensioner got on. Literally took all of my self-restraint not to attack the *.
     
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    There's a Scottish saying....'Bottle a ginger'..

    They're particularly no well liked up there it seems..
     
  6. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    You can shave them off....but they haven't gone away you know.
     
  7. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I didn’t brush it off I just didn’t feel the need to respond to to the whataboutery.

    Of course not.
     
  8. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Genuinely the first funny joke I’ve heard about it in years. :56:
     
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  9. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    I think context and the audience is important with these things @Minty. That's not in any way belittling your cousin's own struggle as I hate hearing stories like that.

    The exact same statement in 2 different contexts can have completely different meanings.

    As an example, my Granda's pal thinks I'm a total firebrand Republican and when I met them in the pub last season I pulled the headphones out of my phone the rebs started blasting and he started laughing "Here he comes the * basturt!"

    The 2nd example was when I turned onto Duke Street in Glasgow wearing an Ireland top, completely oblivious that there was an Orange Walk scheduled to come the other way. I had my headphones in that day but I could still hear their squeals of "*' * basurt"

    The same phrase but 2 entirely different meanings. I don't mean to be presumptuous but it sounds like what your cousin suffered from amounted to bullying which I would like to think everyone on here would completely be against.

    That said I think we need to be careful about barring all references to anything different about a person. I think in 99% of occasions you can tell if a comment was made with malicious intent or just banter between 2 friends. I don't know the dynamics of @EddieBhoy96 and @SUMMER TIME's friendship but I'd be surprised if @EddieBhoy96 was offended by the comment and I'm sure if he was and he pointed it out, that @SUMMER TIME would apologise (as he has already)

    It would be a very dull forum and world in general if we couldn't have a laugh with people or make self-depreciating jokes for fear of assumed hypothetical offence.
     
  10. Liam Scales Gold Member Gold Member

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    It’s not whataboutery, it’s the full point, people get the * ripped out of them for stuff not under their control. They don’t need a full set of laws introduced on every single occasion to mark this as discrimination.
     
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    Look what you've caused @SUMMER TIME

    @EddieBhoy96 is also to blame here for being a ginger *

    I hope you're proud of yourselves
     
  12. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I don’t think Eddie would be offended in the slightest and neither was I, I was just speaking about a much wider issue, which, given by the responses, is worth discussing.

    I can tell when there’s no malice in a comment or joke, as you can with the comment from your Granda’s pal, but a comment not having malice doesn’t make it acceptable.

    It’s like black people reclaiming the N-word. They can say it to one another if they want to, but me saying it without malice doesn’t make it acceptable to use, given its history as a slur.

    It’s the societal wide normalisation of these jokes that make actual abuse and bullying more common. It’s similar to brain dead morons not having anything against gay people, but using words like ‘poof’ and ‘*’ as a joke, normalising slurs. These jokes are almost always focused on a negative, and just because there’s no systematic oppression of ginger people, doesn’t mean that there isn’t a level of societal targeted discrimination.



    It’s the equivalent of women talking about women’s problems and you interjecting with “what about men, they have problems too”. It’s literal whataboutery. We’ve already agreed that people get jokes about all sorts of things, but to use your example, there isn’t a societal wide acceptance of height discrimination.
     
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  13. Liam Scales Gold Member Gold Member

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    You think so?

    Try to tell me that last time I tried to get on the Pepsi Max, height segregation at its finest! :fear:




    Going back to the point, you aren’t special just because your ginger mate. Everycunt gets slagged about something, just because it’s about being gengy, doesn’t make it any different to the rest.
     
  14. Cena Never Give Up Gold Member

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    Its like that episode of south park when cartman turns ginger
     
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    Do you enjoy repeating yourself?

    Just as there’s a difference between racism (which is a much more serious issue), and gingerism, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Just because you seem incapable of understanding it, doesn’t make it not so.
     
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    I have brown hair but a ginger beard. Where do I stand in this whole debate? Am I considered a ginger *?
     
  18. M.E.T.H.O.D MAN Straight from the slums of Shaolin

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    I’m blonde lads ffs
     
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  19. M.E.T.H.O.D MAN Straight from the slums of Shaolin

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    Apology won’t be accepted until paulm apologises also

    Shut it fatso

    Is this the IRA’s official stance on gingers or just your own, asking for a friend.
     
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    delete that or i will go to police
     
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