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With which political ideology do you most identify?

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by Vertie Auld, Apr 8, 2015.

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  1. mygirlmaria

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    Just remember this post when you apply for your job at the 'office' and are applying for your first mortgage!:icon_mrgreen:
     
  2. Vertie Auld

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    Never. :smiley-laughing002:
     
  3. mygirlmaria

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    Id be a mix of liberalism, socialism, environmentalism and a bit of limited free enterprise....ism!
     
  4. Vertie Auld

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    Social liberalism, maybe?
     
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    Militant Atheism.
     
  6. mygirlmaria

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    Aye, something like that!:icon_mrgreen:

    Id like your idea to work if it could, but id like to be born after it had all been cleared up, * living in the world while the revolution was taking place.:smiley-laughing002:
     
  7. Dáibhí

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    There won't be a revolution, especially in the western world. Most people are too comfortable and/or lazy to make it happen.
     
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    I am a believer in Libertarian Conservatism. Sometimes I stray, but never further than Anarcho-Capitalism.
     
  9. Vertie Auld

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    What do you make of Chomsky's assertion that a consistent libertarian "must oppose private ownership of the means of production and wage slavery as incompatible with the principle that labour must be freely undertaken and under the control of the producer"? :icon_mrgreen:
     
  10. Dáibhí

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    As a modernist I'd tell Chomsky that it won't be long before the means of production will no longer require much manpower at all, and will in fact only require a small number of humans to oversee the procedure :icon_mrgreen:
     
  11. KRS-1888 Scott La Rock

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    Socialism without socialism.

    The Juche idea.
     
  12. Vertie Auld

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    :smiley-laughing002:
     
  13. Vertie Auld

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    He addresses that in On Anarchism. :86:
     
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  15. Dáibhí

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    Doesn't anyone else see a glaring issue in looking at the views, opinions and ideas put forth by people who may simply not be relevant anymore?

    All this chat about the means of production and suchlike was great back in the day, but the world has changed a * of a lot since then. Christ, the difference in technological advances in even the past 10-20 years is astounding!

    The world is changing.

    We had the industrial revolution that heralded the change to mass production by way of machinery, changing the way the world worked and the way people lived their lives.

    The early 1990's saw the advent of the digital revolution leading to the information age, which is now in full swing and completely changing the way the world works.

    We're seeing a marked shift from traditional industry to an economy based on technology and an ever-increasing speed of data transfer all over the world, but especially in the western world.

    Just as we saw resistance and a stubborn refusal to change back when the industrial revolution took place I'm sure we'll see the same resistance today, and have done for quite a while now to be honest.

    The harsh truth is, the idea of a steady job where you clock in, do a shift and get your wage at the end of the month is slowly coming to an end. Times are changing, people are having to adapt.

    If you don't adapt, you get left behind.
     
  16. Vertie Auld

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    [ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2XOzyBQ594E[/ame]
     
  17. Jozo The Provo

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    I'd say my main ideology is Republicanism but the my own view on how Republicanism should be is closer to Socialism then Nationalism




    I know nationalism is intertwined with republicanism but it's something I have a pretty strong distaste for so I'd probably go with verts version of civic nationalism
     
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  18. Vertie Auld

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    Some of the ideas are outdated but a lot of the principles hold true.

    If you want a modern analysis of economics, rather than reading Marx's Capital, read Picketty's Capital in the Twenty-First Century.

    Incidentally, one of the aims of On Anarchism, which I mentioned earlier, is to refute the notion that anarchism is a fixed idea - it changes with the times.
     
  19. Vertie Auld

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    It's not like all the political thinkers stopped thinking a century ago.
     
  20. Dáibhí

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    Of course not, but most of them that I've read still apply the outdated rules to todays world, which is why we have so many issues I think.