Downsizing is a Myth

I expect the fans and the strength of the team to come first.

Now with that said, I'm not sure where you stand but I think I know, hopefully I'm wrong.

 

1) I have never said sign a £5m striker or player for that matter.

2) we would all love to know what we do know if £5m is in the bank.

3) we will not buy anymore players as we are out of CL barring a miracle but when Forrest and brown got injured ronny should have spoken to JC and got the lowdown on Mackay-Steven and Armstrong and a £3m bid should have been slapped in for both. If we don't qualify to CL and get into Europa we should still buy these players to bed them in and get European experience but I believe we will make no further signings until next summer and Berget will be farmed back to Cardiff come January but I agree that if there isn't value or potential resale then stay clear but you do need some experience and can get that for a song if you look in the right places.

 

"Sit down,shut up & be a man".

And if you knew your history you would know that our famous CELTIC were borne from our fathers,grandfathers and great grandfathers who refused to "Sit down,shut up" for they were indeed MEN.

 

Daddy @ point 3: We will be signing, just as always with a view to turn profit, not to strengthen the squad for seasons multiple. Players coming in will be told it's fine to shift on quickly.

There in lies a big part of the issue, however we will make signings. Gargamel is right in that the CL is the big draw. However the afore mentioned business model ensures we continually field a weakened/unfamiliar squad, which makes getting into CL even harder.

 

We bought a £12m player for approximately £1 m . Surely there wouldn't be much point in spending £12m on his replacement . That would be the height of stupidity . Spending approximately twice as much as on the original would seem to be just about right .
We can't look back in hindsight and say the replacement didn't turn out as good as the original. No matter how much we paid we don't know until we have him for a while if he will be as good .

 

Didn't you know the standard of signing should now be 12 million or we are downsizing.

 

Hold on.

You said:

"then questions need to be answered by the board as it doesnt take more than £14m to run celtic over 6 months."

Then Wulliebad told you:

"Operating expenses decreased by 7% to £34.3m (2012: £37.0m)"

I've just had to read through a good few posts of you telling all and sundry exactly how Celtic is being run financially and how it should be run.

So, going by your incorrect information above: who the * are you and why am I listening to someone putting Celtic financial affairs in order that can't even * capitalise sentences? Or starts them with "anno mate."

 

He was only out by 6 mill (assuming wullies op ex was annual). Just saying like. Not that far. Grammar aside, congrats on the roasting

6 mill would buy a tidy CB or striker right enough!

 

No one said that,your making that up.

But in truth we have wasted more than 12 mil,on players like Rasmussen,1.5 mil,Bangura 2.2 mil,Freddie 1.5 mil,Balde 1.8 mil,Lassad 1.1 mil,Bo Derek 2 mil,Murphy 1.1 mil,Pukki 2 mil.
A whole lot of cash to throw around,dont you think.

 

It was.

 

Anyhoo, when it comes to "down sizing" there must be a reason why we closed the upper tier last season?

 

There has been everything under the sun listed as evidence we are downsizing from not spending the same as before to the quality of player is less than last season.
We have spent the same in the last two windows so not sure how we can be downsizing in regard to spending.
As for quality....i just don't * know how the club are only meant to sign better than the last guy, life just don't work like that.

I know the club has wasted money but like i said how the * do we sign only winners.....spend more money...???
Wanyama cost less than...brown,ledley,stefan and the same as kayal but he was miles ahead of them all....so more money is not always the answer.

I think we should have more season long loan players,it would let us get a good look before we buy.
There must be some good players out there that would take a loan move to us and just maybe do the same as FF and sign up afterwards.

 

I'm well aware of that unfortunate fact. My point is if our club's main purpose is to turn a profit and earn healthy returns on shareholder investment we might as well shut the gates now and call it a day. There is no football without fans, as the saying goes. And turning fans away from the club because of mismanagement won't help them in the long run, even if their precious balance sheet looks tasty just now.

 

The club is definitely downsizing despite what some people try to argue. We always had a team full of established international players now we buy potential. As others have already mentioned a lot of the players we have brought in have been flops and a waste of resources but because we can make a huge profit from selling players like Wanyama, the board see this as the least risk.

I don't know how much longer the club can go on doing this because many fans are already sick of selling our best and not bringing in any decent replacements. How many players who didn't want to leave were pushed out to collect the transfer kitty?

I've been feeling this way about Celtic for a few years now. I got a temporary lift when Neil Lennon became manager and promised to bring back the thunder but that was short lived as well. I just feel the club has become soulless,money hungry and only really cares about its brand and image. The way fans are treated at Celtic park is atrocious, filmed by police like criminals.

 

Thanks but no he wasn't (only out by 6 million)

He said it doesn't take 14m to run Celtic. If he think it takes 10 or 12m to run celtic he's 10 or 14m out.

Only £10m or £14m out then. And this is the guy that's telling celtic who to get their business in order, aye? :smiley-laughing002:

And another beauty:

"Lawwell takes £1.3m per year our of celtic in wages and bonus!"

Again, when pulled up on it, found out to be an utter pile of *.

So we have an illiterate celtic supporter, unable to understand or communicate simple information from released figures and also utterly * at arithmetic.

It's no wonder a small queue will form behind the money musings of Mr Bear such is the desire to stamp to death everyone at Celtic connected with our own financial management, but I'm guessing Warren Buffett's role just might be safe for the moment

 

Roy:

He said in a 6 month period it doesn't take more than 14mill. Thats 28 mill annually. 34 - 28 = 6. I think yer figures are a wee bit out mate.

Wether (spelling) or not his grammar is up to it, doesn't mean he cant be correct or have his figures, facts or heart in the right place. Easy now eh?

 

Forster - England International
Lustig - Sweden International
Matthews - Welsh International
Ambrose - Nigerian International
Izzy - Honduran International
Rogic - Australian International
Johansen - Norwegian Internationalu
Berget - Norwegian International
Forrest - Scotland International
Brown - Scotland International
Mulgrew - Scotland International
Stokes - Irish International
Pukki - Finnish International
Griffiths - Scotland International

There's 14 to be getting on with.

I'm sure there is a previous Celtic squad peppered my more international players (feel free to tell me) but its hardly that we play a first team of "potential" is it?

Same with the "how many people were shown the door that wanted to stay." Practically zero as far as I can ascertain (again please feel free to enlighten me.) As usual people just make * up as it's too boring to look into the facts.

 

Im waiting Roy.

 

What are you going on about? I gave my opinion if you don't like it fine but I didn't make anything up.

Our team hasn't got many established internationals in my view. Some get the odd game but most are not international class. How many players did we have at the world cup that actually played?

Ledley didn't want to leave at that time I'm sure Matthews said something about it at the time.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/adam-matthews-joe-ledley-didnt-3127397

I don't know maybe he was running his contact down but when he was sold I was shocked. It seemed to come from nowhere.

 

For what? You never asked me anything?

If I say it doesn't take more than 2 grand to cover my weekly bills, are you saying there's no possibility the actual figure is lower than 2 grand?

Hardly a revelation mate. Glad you stuck around to find it out though. You can get to your kip now