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The Ronny Deila Thread

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Glasgow_Bhoy88, Jun 6, 2014.

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  1. JamesM09

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    This is spot on for me and the primary reason I've lost faith in Deila. People on here spin the results one way and another. Some say he's only lost 6 domestic games, others say he's not won in 11 Europa League games. Ultimately, we're playing poor and predictable football which seems to be getting worse.
     
  2. RabS Aw fuck it Gold Member

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    Nice swerve on the main question I asked, do you honestly think the players have bought into Ronny's vision and are fighting for his job atm? Seriously?

    You don't need a high profile manager like Moyes or Rodgers to have won 1 of our last 11 Europa League games though, * even a manager of lesser quality than Lennon would've managed that if they were even semi capable of organising a defence and injecting a shred of fight into the team.

    Expecting the current group of players to win one of 11 Europe's 2nd tier competition isn't asking for much.

    Fwiw I'm not someone who expects us to be qualifying for the CL group stages every year, at the level we operate at I think that's an unreasonable expectation on whoever our manager is, but the fact is Ronny has shown no signs of learning from his mistakes in the last 18 months and shows no signs of adapting any time soon.
     
  3. PureGallus

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    I voted "it depends on what he wins this season"
    But I have serious doubts about him, but I think the board have done a fast one with him.

    They changed the whole signing policy of the club(that's why Lenny left) and instead of being upfront about the new direction we are going in, he brought in Ronny to talk about development blah blah blah to mask the lack of ambition by our board.

    So many times when I have seen us play this season, we don't look like a team, never mind a good one. My cousin was at the game today and said we looked like 10 clueless individuals with no heart. That's the manager and I no longer have faith in him to turn it around. The thing is, we'll beat Hearts and Dundee and the cracks will be papered over again.
     
  4. JamesM09

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    There's nothing wrong with the idea of bringing in another coach like Deila. Just because this one isn't working out doesn't mean it shouldn't be tried again.

    Say we bring in Rogers and it doesn't work out, do we just not hire any managers because both a cheap inexperienced manager and an expensive experienced manager both didn't work?
     
  5. Kurt 2112

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  6. Mr Shelby Administrator Administrator

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    It certainly isn't a guarantee or as much of a divine right as many of our fans seem to think.

    If we had Lennon's team at it's height with some of the players in it, then yes, I'd say I would be much more expectant of getting through those 6 qualifiers.

    However looking at our squad, not even on paper but also using results on the pitch, I don't see how I can be confident of consistently beating the likes of Malmo, Molde, Maribor, Legia Warsaw, Salzburg etc..because really are we any better than them, regardless of how much more money we might have, I'd say * no. If you looked at our squad you wouldn't think we had more money than these sides. Full of injury prone, inconsistent players and average SPL men who won't really make the difference for you, even at those early stages of European football.
     
  7. Kyogo Furuhashi Gold Member Gold Member

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    Or get rid of him now and give a new manager half a season to prepare for the CL qualifiers.
     
  8. Mr Shelby Administrator Administrator

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    In terms of recruitment that can't be completely thrown at Deila. Our recruitment has been questionable for a while and it obviously doesn't all come down to him.

    I've said it before on here but it seems like we constantly target the wrong players. Our unwillingness to go even 1 million or so above a players asking price or 1-2 million outside our supposed budget is slowly killing our progression.
     
  9. oh bhoy

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    He is * clueless ,he got a Chance he should never have got and has proved he is out of his depth ,20players later there has been zero improvement another 2transfer windows and another chance of showing us up in Europe ain't gonna change that
     
  10. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    At the very least we should be far better than Molde and Maribor. On paper for me we are better than Malmo. Salzberg and Legia we should beat more times than not but we are not going Salzberg in CL qualification with Legia being one of the more difficult obstacles
     
  11. Mr Shelby Administrator Administrator

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    Why though mate? What (or who) from our team suggests that to you?

    I don't see any reason for those sides to fear us, currently. They obviously didn't either come to think of it.
     
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    I think our team has a fair bit of dross in it, but I still think our squad has better players than those teams. Whether that's true or not one thing I would say is in each of those ties I would say we were tactically inferior, which is Ronny's responsibility alone.
     
  13. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    I don't know what we are meant to be right now.

    We are meant to be an attacking team but we never seem to have a lot of bodies in the box, yet we seem to be short at the back every time we lose the ball.

    It's as if we have 10 players milling about the middle of the park all the time, neither attacking nor defending.

    There is no plan far as I can see.
     
  14. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    Do you not think any of these sides would find room for Johansen, Brown, Button or Listing. For what we paid for Jozo could we not take our pick of any of the players from these teams. In Moldes case at least 2or 3. You would think if they are so superior to us then we should be targeting these players rather than DUs
     
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    What are the chances of him getting sacked? Anybody know?
    From social media/family/friends, I can't see many people still backing him...
     
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    That's the problem, we should be targeting players from Molde, Malmo, Salzburg, Legia and so on rather than Dundee United.

    We also only paid around 1-2m for Simunovic, it was nowhere near the £5m reported. Not a chance.

    I'm not saying they are 'superior' to us either, as such. I never have. I'm just making the point that there is barely any gap in quality between us and them currently, that much is clear.
     
  17. Mr Shelby Administrator Administrator

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    Look, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we have absolutely nothing to offer.

    However I don't think Griffiths, Commons and such strike fear into these sides.
     
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    My biggest fear is that things will have to get worse before they get better. Ronny has had the saving grace of winning league games after dismal Euro matches.

    Everyone can see the glaring tactical naivety Ronny has displayed through his Euro debacles and his inability to be versatile with his formation.

    If the domestic games start sliding away, he's done, plain and simple.

    I see no sign of improving under his stewardship particularly in Europe. We will continue to slide further out of touch with European football with the current fragility our side displays.

    I see no reason to say Ronny deserves further attempts at the CL when there are no signs of progress either tactically or otherwise.

    Both Molde and Malmo have way way less financial muscle than ourselves as did Maribor and the rest. Therefore logic dictates there's an issue with tactics /coaching (particularly defensive) and also recruitment.

    No doubts this year well sign key positions 3 weeks before CL qualifiers after we sell our best players and so the madness will continue under DD.

    DD loves his yes men and PL and RD fit nicely.
     
  19. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    For me we have better players they have a better team
     
  20. PureGallus

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    I thought joining this site would be fun. I was wrong. :icon_mrgreen:

    He's no getting the sack, even though the majority want him to go. The fans have nae power :55::55: