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Zlatan vs. Larsson

Discussion in 'World Football' started by InLennonWeTrust, Jun 18, 2016.

Discuss Zlatan vs. Larsson in the World Football area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. InLennonWeTrust

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    Before I start, would just like to say I am aware I'm posting this on a Celtic fan forum. However, I'm genuinely interested in reading an unbiased debate on this if possible.

    Anyway, Zlatan or Henke?

    Such is the esteem that Ibrahimovic and Larsson are held in by football fans in Sweden, they are simply known by their first names just like John, Paul, George and Ringo.

    Separated by almost exactly a decade in age, the pair both hail from the Skane region in the Swedish south. Ibrahimovic (34) from Malmo and Larsson (44) from Helsingborg both starred for their local clubs who share a rivalry on the scale of Liverpool v Manchester United.

    Supporters of each club like to claim their local icon is the greatest player ever to emerge from Sweden. It is a debate that can turn heated with regional pride very much at * regarding these southern boys done good.

    Similarities between the pair abound. Ibra’s parents are both immigrants from former Yugoslavia while Larsson’s father is from Cape Verde. The strikers cut their teeth in the Dutch Eredivisie, long a nurturing ground for promising Swedish talent. After first leaving Allsvenskan; both scored goals for fun, had spells at Barcelona and made several u-turns when it came to representing their country.

    For all that they have in common there is of course one major difference. While Ibra’s undoubted talent is admired he has more detractors than supporters in his homeland, who do not care for his outspoken persona and cocky attitude. Larsson, by contrast, is a hugely popular figure cited as a good example for his sportsmanship and resilience throughout his career.

    Hold a popularity contest between the two in Sweden and Larsson would win. Comfortably.

    None of which matters a jot when it comes to assessing their abilities on the pitch - even if Swedes allow their personal views of both to influence their opinion of just who is the better player.

    Ibrahimovic Larsson


    484/302 TOTAL GAMES/GOALS 576/325

    0.62 GOALS PER GAME 0.56

    115/62 INTERNATIONAL GAMES/GOALS 106/37

    0.54 GOALS PER GAME 0.35


    Comparing Ibrahimovic the player with Larsson the player on the statistics front shows their goalscoring averages are quite similar. For the national team, Ibrahimovic has already bypassed Larsson’s 37 goals with an almost-doubled tally of 62. In addition to this, Zlatan also done so in 19 games less than his former strike partner.

    It is often been said that Larsson is a great goalscorer while Ibrahimovic is a scorer of great goals. Such a statement tends to overlook Ibra’s tallies, particularly in Serie A, where has twice won the Capocannonieri.

    Supporters of Ibra will point out he has played at the highest level in Europe for over a decade, putting an asterisk over Larsson’s 242 goals in 315 appearances for Celtic due to the Old Firm dominance of the Scottish scene.

    Larsson of course had plenty of offers to leave Celtic Park during his seven-year spell but chose to remain for both sporting and family reasons. Loyalty is not a word frequently associated with Ibrahimovic and he holds the record for combined transfer fees after moves from Malmo, Ajax, Juventus, Inter, Barcelona, AC Milan and now Paris Saint-Germain.

    As a striker, Ibrahimovic’s muscular 6ft 5in frame and exquisite technique to boot make him one of the most difficult forwards to mark ... when he is on form. From that breakthrough solo effort for Ajax against NAC to the quadruple against England, he has shown time and again that he can win matches on his own.

    Indeed Larsson himself was moved to say of Ibrahimovic in 2009: “The truth is that as a striker he has it all,” after advising his compatriot to join Barcelona.

    He has won nine domestic titles in the last 11 seasons (if you include Juventus 2004-2006), but never the Champions League. Ibra’s spell with the Blaugrana sandwiched their triumphs in 2009 and 2011 while former club Inter went all the way without him in 2010. Few noticed Ibrahimovic’s absence during those celebrations.

    Henke was almost 33 when he joined Barcelona in 2004 and quickly allayed any doubts that he was just a big fish in a small Scottish pond. Larsson won two Liga titles playing alongside Ronaldinho, who described the Swede as his ‘idol,’ but saved his best for last in the 2006 Champions League final when he set up both of his side's goals to defeat Arsenal.

    In an interview with this writer in 2012 he said “that was my best ever impact as a substitute” and made up for the 2003 Uefa Cup final loss to Porto with Celtic.

    Larsson’s pace, balance and old-fashioned poaching made him a key team player wherever he played. Zlatan’s outrageous talent means it is very much a one man show, something he discovered to his peril at Barcelona, where Lionel Messi has the star billing. He departed Camp Nou under a cloud referring to Pep Guardiola as an “*” in his autobiography which is just one of many altercations he has had with colleagues in his career.
     
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  2. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Larsson is better, say otherwise and I'll report you.
     
  3. LoveTheTic88

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    You've got Ibrah's international record waaaaay wrong.
     
  4. ILoveTheCeltic

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    The King of Kings is better, if Ibrahimovic had played for us the last 7 seasons I dont think he'd have made the same impact as Larsson tbh
     
  5. InLennonWeTrust

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    Fixed, my bad.

    If I knew how to, I'd also add a poll.
     
  6. Markybhoy

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    Hate to do it but for pure footballing ability, Zlatan is better. Henrik has the better intangibles though - attitude, work rate, sportsmanship, loyalty etc.
     
  7. The Prof Administrator Administrator

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    The poll would be so one sided it would topple over :icon_mrgreen:
     
  8. Paul67 Administrator Administrator

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    There is absolutely no competition in my opinion. Larsson by a distance.
     
  9. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Reported.:smiley-laughing002:
     
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    I don't care what anyone say's, MON was right about that big lazy * lol.
     
  11. Markybhoy

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  12. Henke102

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    Larson old fashioned poaching??? when I think of old fashioned poaching I think of a McCoist or Boyd type doing * all except hang about in the box and not helping the team, never heard Henrik being described that way before.
     
  13. Miles Platting Irish Mancunian Gold Member

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    Not even close,
     
  14. CymruBhoy

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    No one can could head a ball like the King of Kings.
    Apart from that he is a man with humility & respect & who would you rather share a changing room with?
     
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    Oh * no!
    Henrik footballing ability surpasses even zlatan. His movemebt, touch, speed, control and finish with either foot and head was unbelievable.

    Zlatan is a world talent and has proved it countless times, but Henrik had it all. Team player and able to pull out solo efforts. Zlatan for as amazing as he is lives off of those solo wonder goals.

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  16. Scotia Gold Member Gold Member

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    ibra looks up to henke .. end of story !!
     
  17. Nasser

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    Yeah when I think poacher I think Gary Lineker or goal hanger as we said as kids. Henrik Larsson had the strength of Alan Shearer the agility of Mark Hughes, he had pace and could score from anywhere and was good with his head also.
     
  18. Swervedancer Guest

    Like Ronaldo and Messi, both are world class but one has an all round game.
     
  19. Onefootwonder

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    How many times do we see Zlatan and still question his abilities? He's been about for years, his record is amazing, but he appears to fail all too often to produce the goods in games that matter/we see on TV.

    He's done so much, but still can't overcome the questions about his overall game.

    Henrik because he does it and he does it like a gent.
     
  20. Swervedancer Guest

    No one is questioning Zlatan, he's a fantastic player. Just not in the same league as Larsson who is up there with the visionaries