The Irish Football Team Thread

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  1. McGuire Gold Member Gold Member

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    I'd have him over Dier everyday of the week from what I've seen..

    *, even Jake Livermore was getting some shot last year..

    Just playing it down. He'll have known if he had a real shot at playing for England he was choosing them from the off..

    I suspect most are the same and know what they'd do but don't say incase they aren't good enough..
     
  2. clonbhoy

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    It isn't, I can assure you. Players eligible for one or more countries are allowed one switch, once the paperwork is completed so is the switch.
     
  3. clonbhoy

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    It is probably easy if you only have one nationality, I have no idea what it is like to have two. I imagine both countries are in his heart and having to choose between them wasn't easy.
     
  4. Deebo Gold Member Gold Member News Writer

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    Was easy enough when he was getting picked for Ireland underage.
     
  5. clonbhoy

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    Because he didn't have a decision to make, he simply went with whoever picked him. He has two nationalities, one nation picked him the other didn't.
     
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    And when he had a decision to make it was shown where his heart really was. He clearly has a preference to England so shouldn’t have played for us, especially at senior level but any level at all really.

    He should never have played for us if he didn’t think he would be committed in this scenario, but I suppose that’s the way international football and football in general is going.

    I also think there has to be stricter rules against the likes of this happening. If you represent a country from under 18’s onwards you should be committed to that country.
     
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  7. clonbhoy

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    When he played for us he was very committed, he was forced into a choice and he made it. In all likelihood, he probably made his decision based on what was best for his career. Head over heart.

    We have had plenty players play underage for other nation's underage teams. I don't think we should be tying people down to one country at such a young age when more and more people have strong connections to more than one country. That is exactly why the rules changed in the first place.
    We will most likely benefit from it down the line. It is frustrating now as our squad is *, but that's the way it goes.
     
  8. Deebo Gold Member Gold Member News Writer

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    I take your point but I will never agree with choosing the country you want to play for with your head over your heart.

    Also, I think 17/18 is well old enough to have decided which country you want to represent. Even at under 15’s it shouldn’t be that much of a choice.
     
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  9. clonbhoy

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    If your heart is split, use your head. That seems to have been the case here.

    But why tie them? Why deny a player an international career because of what may only be a sleight preference at 16/17.
    It is a huge choice! The problem is people can't empathise with people who have only one nationality. Look at Ryan Johansson of Bayern who recently committed to us. He was eligible for three nations and has, after dabbling with all three, in one way or another, chosen us.

    I honestly think that a lot of the problem comes from Irish people seeing Irish and English as incompatible identities. If Rice was having to choose between Ireland and any other country there wouldn't be half the outcry. To Rice the two identities are just part of him. They are the two sides of his family. It probably felt like a choice between Nana Rice and Nana Smith.
    Sure, we would be annoyed at losing a quality player, but a lot of the anger seems to stem from the fact that he kissed the Irish crest and all that bollocks and then chose England.
    If it was Belgium people wouldn't be as upset.
     
  10. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    If it was Belgium he wouldn't be anywhere near the team :fear:
     
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    Fair point! A bad example!
     
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    See where you’re coming from.

    He’ll be nothing but a Brit * to me from here on in though. :celt_2:
     
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    So much for "building a team around him" I thought that was vomit inducing when I heard that, and it's even more so now he's * off to play for England. He will be kissing the 3 lions in no time like it never happened. They need to do something about this now as it's going to happen a lot and England are going tap up players more now they've had success getting this lad to play for them.
     
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    I'd probably be more bothered if i'd ever seen the * play or even knew what he looked like.

    At the end of the day it's his choice. Bit silly how it's turned into such a soap opera but.
     
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    The Rice situation is beautifully ironic because it is usually Ireland stealing English and Scottish players.
     
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    In better news, just saw that 19 year old Ryan Nolan has been included in Inter Milan’s 19 match squad for their Europa League game tonight away to Rapid Vienna.

    Promising stuff. Probably learned a lot more abroad than he will have done playing youth football over here.
     
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    If we stole these players than why weren't the police called ?
     
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    Trolling pish.
     
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    Whatever about the badgekissers at club level,to kiss the badge of a country and reveal you went out of your way to learn its national anthem so as to sing it then turnaround and say you heart wasnt really in it reveals a John Terry like character
     
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