Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by hkbhoy, May 15, 2007.
Discuss Scott Brown - Celtic legend in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.
Ajer might be worth a try at DM.
Aye that's why I said a DM is a must.. But in the meantime I'd go with that.
Criminal mistake last night. The striker was readying to try something that was by no means easy to do. You only give penalties if your keeper is excellent at saving those. We haven't had that in ages. Rregardless of things, he can't play every game. Just can't take the strain.
I agree that Brown should be used a bit part player now but in reality that'll not happen as there's and old pals act inforce here between NL and SB.
Browns name will be the first on the teamsheet every game until the end of the season and probably next year aswell !
It’s admirable that people try and use age and physical strain as an excuse.
He’s a poor footballer and not worth the wages we pay him. His energy has disguised that at times over the years.
No doubt he will be ‘back’ again, when we play Ross County and Hamilton, but we need more than that.
There we go, the same rewriting of history that happened with Lustig. Right on schedule.
Aye, you’re not really helping your own argument there. Lustig was dog * for almost three years. The guy could barely turn at one stage.
We need a lot more than what Brown offers. Constantly putting our players under immediate pressure in big games with his inaccurate passing, and can’t track runners. That’s not a physical problem, just concentration and game awareness.
It’s part of the problem that fans like yourself settle for that in the most important area on the pitch.
I don't think I could disagree more. A poor footballer?
Great idea - our defence is a shambles so remove the 1 shining light at centre half for a guinea pig experiment.
What’s he good at? What does he contribute?
One mistake or bad game and you become useless...
Excellent at taking possession from a tackle, accurate in both short and long passes, fights tenaciously for every ball... Need I go on? @PaddyMcCourt20
Yeah, there hasn’t been a single game over the past decade that he helped us win. Not a single one, but a howler last night and a bad game at Ibrox means he is absolutely brutal and the worst player ever.
I don’t care if this makes me a ‘Celtic da’ are any of that bullshit, but this overreaction to everything, good and bad, is part of what makes modern football unbearable.
It's no surprise that the best football we played last year was when McGregor played in the deep role in Brown's absence. The problem we have is that the person who plays deep starts almost all our attacks. If that is Brown, he doesn't receive the ball as well as McGregor. Brown will often take it in facing his own goal and it slows us down, whereas McGregor takes it on the half turn and already knows who he is giving it to next. Brown reads the game and his positioning is good from a defensive point of view in my opinion, which was all down to Lennon in his first spell, but we lose a lot in an attacking sense having Brown over McGregor.
He’s good at 50/50s. Fighting tenaciously for every ball is sort of a prerequisite when you’re the captain or midfielder of any club, be that Celtic, Chievo, or The Blantyre Vics.
He is absolutely not accurate with short and long passes. Half of the short passes he is accurate with are over or under hit, meaning that although it goes to a Celtic player they are under immediate pressure from pressing players and usually have more work to do than necessary. That’s when he’s not passing it out for a shy under no pressure at all.
For a defensive midfielder he is poor at marking, doesn’t cover the defence well enough, should be cutting passing lanes and tracking their midfield runners better, no where near positionally aware enough. He’s a massive part of why we get picked apart when we come up against any half decent side.
Not true, he's not even dog * now. He gradually got worse over about 2 years until he reached the point last season where he was no longer good enough for Celtic. But he isn't dog * and in his prime he was absolutely brilliant.
I don't know what you see when you watch a football game, but if you think all Broony ever brought was physicality and tenacity, then you are missing a lot and frankly missing out on a lot of what makes football special.
Two quotes and not one response to the question.
What does he contribute? I couldn’t give a * if he played like Makelele three years ago. What does he bring to the team right now?
Scored the winning goal at Rugby Park in the last minute, set up Edouard's last minute winner v Hearts. 2 pivotal moments in the League last season.
You're aff your heid if you think he brings nothing to the team.
As I said before, I couldn't disagree with you more. I've seen him over hit a ball and I've seen passes go astray. I've criticized him for the occasions when he's been caught out of position (usually when helping out a team mate, but not always).
The simple fact that he has played such an big part in everything we have done for the past 9 years and that different managers have found him indispensable to several different teams and formations all argue against your assertion that he's a "poor footballer."