Neil Lennon

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  1. packybhoy Administrator Administrator

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    Win the Scottish Cup for a treble treble and all this hysteria will die down. It will go down as another treble in the Scottish football statistics and also a period of the game that Celtic totally dominated the scene and strolled past their rivals. People may recall Lennon taking control and the football side of things taking a wobble and let’s face it that is exactly what it is. Make the right appointment and now we are back on track and now hopefully we will see that revolving door that Rodgers spoke about. The media and the huns are whipping each other into a frenzy to make believe they are the stable club on the cusp of a wave. They are all willing the big bhoys to take a fall and it’s like they are baying for blood.

    Fact is the momentum swings back into our camp when the new season begins. We will start as champions and look at the odds of any bookie will show who are favourites and you won’t get crazy odds for another Celtic treble. “The Moneyball” is ours and if we are faltering we have stability in ownership to get us back on course and love or loathe them, Desmond and Lawell will see us to the ten. It’s the reason that the media aren’t to quick to rubbish any Celtic links to top European managers with world class pedigree. Mourinho and Benetez names are constantly linked and nobody has said they won’t be at Celtic. That is the regard and prestige the Celtic job holds and even if only for a couple of seasons, most managers want us on their CV.

    Now swing the spotlight onto the best thing in Scottish football at the moment. 2 results have made their season and their goal of the year went to Ryan Jack who needed a Celtic deflection to put it in the net. Stevie G has went from hero to zero and then Messiah status and all by Winning 0 trophies. 2 wins against the bitter rivals sends their hoardes singing and dancing to Benidorm for the usual bigot bash. Oh how the mighty fall hard. I don’t care how much Jabba has called in all the favours for media to ham them up to dizzy heights because that only raises the huns expectation. A disaster tactic that can only backfire twice as hard and the hushed non reporting of Davey Dodgy eyes court cases. Something will give and the delusional halfwit support will have to make up more stories that nobody believes. At the end of the season they have no trophies, square head as manager and not two pennies to rub together oh and a board as corrupt as a tea party at Violet Krays. * em all, I’m happy with that.
     
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    The football over the past few months has been dire to watch. Boring turgid one dimensional stuff and no plan B. I was very surprised at Lennon's demeanour at the bigot dome last Sunday. Standing passively with his arms folded instead of giving the players on the pitch a verbal rollicking. I Remember the 90s when the scum were cheating there way to titles but we live in the here and now and i'm afraid that the past few months have not been good enough and i fear for next season if NL is at the helm.
     
  3. Deebo Gold Member Gold Member News Writer

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    Agree with most of what he said in the press conference tbh.
     
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    I find it baffling that people seem willing to ignore how poor we were under Rodgers the majority of the season and act like Lennon has taken us massively backwards over the last ten games or so.:56:
     
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    Thank you.

    I've been trying to figure out a good way of saying this for a week now.

    All season we have been absolute garbage to watch. Same goes for last season, pretty much anything after October 2017 has been a drag. One dimensional and the same setup/formation/lineup every week. I got that we stuck to it during the later stages of the unbeaten run, but seldom after that ended did we actually change it up. Once or twice, we even showed glimpses of being able to do something different, but Rodgers would return to type quite quickly.

    Looking forward to the fresh approach a new manager will bring - for me if Lennon is going to be content on continuing this style of football he aint the answer.
     
  6. JC Anton Time for 9 Gold Member

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    We were excellent under Rodgers after the break, he left after we smashed Motherwell 4-1..we were flying. Don't get me wrong there was going to be a lull in performance after his departure, the sheer uncertainty of it. But, Lenny has had plenty of time to get a reaction from the players and in terms of performance, tactics and game management. It's evident he's not the man to take us forward.

    It will be harsh on him, no doubt but that's life sometimes.
     
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    I miss the times when this * would make bullshit up about sevco instead of us
     
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    For me he is starting to lose some respect, don’t have a go at the fans.

    No one is happy with the result, fans are not happy with the way the club has been run if I’m honest. My point being the way they are * penny pinching *.

    We never, ever strengthen from a position of strength. Time and time again they have * the club and in turn this has cost us on the pitch and getting into the champions league.

    The last 3/4 windows have been a * shambles as well, We have been out of sorts since last summer and thank * them * have not taken full advantage of the situation.

    They have got better but we have got worse and that’s down to the men at the top for letting it happen.

    Since Lennon has come in our football has been * bar one of two games, fans are frustrated and can see the management * up 9 never mind 10 in a row. I’m not saying it was any better than Rodgers it was getting horrible as well but Lennon is not the answer.

    So Mr Lennon take it on the * chin because you have a lot to answer for with that line up, formation and tactics.

    I really hope he does not get the job cause we will be * next season.
     
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    For me the difference is that it's understandable to play dull, ineffective football as long as you are trying to play a kind of football that suits the players on the pitch. Under Rodgers it had gotten stale, form had obviously dipped but we knew what we were trying to do and on the days where it worked (Primarily when midfield was freshened up with Christie and Henderson coming in) we immediately went back to playing a good game.

    This stint under Lenny we're failing to play a style of football that the team isn't suited to even if it was playing well and that's just not acceptable in a Celtic manager, certainly not now. We don't have the luxury of multiple transfer windows to build his team, we have this team and it needs to keep winning, it needs to play to the strengths it has and those aren't banging cross after cross into French Eddie who's least impressive trait is how he never gets on the end of the them.
     
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    To the people saying we have been garbage to watch all season before Lennon came in anyway: then why didn't Lennon make it a point to modify the style of the play and commit to real structural changes to improve the football? He's culpable there too, especially if he had genuine ambitions of landing the permanent job when he first came in. It's not like he really tried to implement his philosophy (besides flip flopping the wingers a few times a game:56:) and the result was that it didn't have an impact, which would either show the players are just essentially finished with this season or not buying into Lennon's ideas. He came out right in the beginning and said he didn't want to change anything too much because of how great the team was playing under Rodgers, which was false even then. We can debate whether he did or didn't actually change much (more long balls, more crosses, etc.) but I feel like this line of thinking is counter-intuitive and gives Lennon maybe more leeway than he deserves for his influence, or lack thereof, on our style of play the past few months.
     
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    Same could be said about Rodgers after the undefeated run.
    I'm also not entirely sure how much Lennon wants this job to be honest. Like you say, why hasn't he made bigger changes? He has been very adamant on keeping things as they are, with minor tweaks - crossing more and extra days off seems the overall difference.
     
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    Cause we were top of the league and on course for a treble treble by playing that style. If it ain't broke don't fix it - can't blame him for that tbh.
     
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    I agree up to a point but I mean it was apparent to most supporters that something was broken even then. Being top of the league and on course for a treble treble might obscure that but it doesn't negate it.
     
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    Of course, but it would come back to bite him even harder if he changed our style completely with 8 games to go and he lost the league..

    My criticism based on that is that the Huns game was the one where he could've experimented a bit as the league was wrapped up but he didn't even make tactical changes during the game, let alone before it.
     
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    Just watched Lennon's press conference, he does put over some good and valid points. Social media is a scourge and can filter negativity right through the club. As with the media gripping on to the huns beating us twice trying to spin we're in complete crisis. Yawn, this is now a yearly event, the facts are the huns have achieved * all and will continue to achieve * all.

    We've won the league 8 on the bounce and are on the cusp of a historic Rebel Treble, when you take a step back that's some achievement, pretty phenomenal really. Been guilty myself of slating players but hats of to them, they are under immense pressure and have come up with the goods although the football has not been great at times. The end results been the scooping of every domestic honour available to them and yet as fans we've somehow not been happy.

    A new manager, a clear out, some fresh hungry faces and we will soldier on continuing the greatness :ynwacelti
     
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    We undoubtedly have spoiled *'s in our support. Tell me any big/semi big club that doesn't?

    That's at least twice now in a matter of week's he's taken exception to the support though. Today about being spoiled and the other week about the criticism being way over the top about our performances..

    Almost like a parting shot that he's no getting the job and a bit of the blame game going on recently. I've no doubt the majority no wanting him in and it being pretty obvious that's the case, has had an impact on the board's decision moving forward without him....which I think will be the case..

    If I'm honest I find it a bit cringey and embarrassing that again today. Made untold excuses whenever we've dropped points to deflect away from dismal performances as well..

    Bit of realism wouldn't go a miss that we aren't playing good football whatsoever and tactically, and personnel wise, he's got it wrong more than anyone would like... no more than himself secretly..
     
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    He made minor tweaks and it hasn't worked. Rodgers had made a * of this season, but Lenny has to take some responsibility. I had a feeling that the danger would be him falling between two stools, not knowing whether to play his way or Rodgers' way. There are plenty of underlying factors too, not least the uncertainty around next season, but he has to take some responsibility himself. Passing it off on to the fans like this is only making it worse for himself!

    The great thing is, we are unhappy with this season!
     
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    We should never turn on Lenny , guy has given more than any single one of us for Celtic . Don't need to think he's the best candidate as manager but he's Celtic through and through
     
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    He should never turn on the guys that pay his wages either. Respect is a two way street.
     
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    Well said!! I thought he spoke well today!!

    That * and Lawwell's egos clashed in the summer to give us our worst start in manys a year. We had a bounce from the end of January but we * needed it with the orcs right in our slipstream. We also had a very fortunate win in that period with Broony at Rugby Park just to show the early season crap hadn't totally vanished. Thank * the gap was so big and the hun's are so bad as i believe this really was their chance. He left us with a team that was just about out of gas and really underperforming for the majority of the season. My own opinion is that some of the stuff aimed towards Lenny has been well below the belt and from very early in his tenure too!!!

    I'm not as convinced as i was that's he's the man to take us forward but i still believe he's a lot better than most,if not all, of the realistic candidates i've heard so far.
     
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