MMA Thread

Comparing Diaz and Cowboy’s size would be a good arguement if they were able to take the same amount of damage.

They can’t.

 

I’m pretty sure they will be focusing on something a little more in depth than size...

 

I think Conor would walk through Cerrone. He's got no head movement and his boxing is reflective of someone who doesn't spar. He can get his shots off but only when his opponent is stagnant. His ground game is where he could cause Conor problems but I would doubt that as well.

I think it's a fight Conor should take if he's serious about getting back to his best.

 

Cerrone isn't a long and rangey striker, he strikes with a pretty basic Muay Thai skill-set. Nate plants his lead leg and fights a long, basic 1-2 boxing style. Cerrone won't be much heavier than Conor either, he has stated repeatedly he weighs at 175 when fighting at LW.

 

That really means nothing. Watch actual Muay Thai fights and you'll see what I mean. Having a basic Muay Thai skill set is no slight, MMA is a different sport. My point was, he may be tall and have decent reach, especially for a LW, but he does not use his reach because his striking style does not allow it.

 

Yes, I got your point, it isn't a good one. You seem to be confused. Calling him 'basic' is not me meaning 'bad'. Effectiveness is not directly linked to the quality of one's technique; you can be a basic Muay Thai fighter and win fights, just as you can be technically proficient and lose them. However, you are leading this way off of the original point which is Cerrone is not a long and rangey striker. He fights close in and utilises basic (sorry) Muay Thai combinations to good effect.

 

He doesn't really use elbows all that much. His kicks from distance are just single shots to suss out his opponent, his best work is mid-to-short range where he throws basic combinations; he doesn't tend to fight long or draw his opponent onto him like the typical counter-striker. He rarely teeps, and almost never steps in with his knees. Like most Muay Thai fighters, he prefers to pressure and move in close at mid-to-short range. Look at his fight with Masvidal, for example, he stood in front of him for most of the fight which is partly why he got finished, and why he tends not to do well against boxers. Against RDA the first time, he stood off of him, but he was largely ineffectual from there because, regardless of his height, he does not fight long and rangey.

 

Khabib McGregor Ferguson Pettis Lee Nate all beat Cerrone for me, pretty comfortably. That’s not even including the likes of Gaethje, Poirier...

He’s a legend for what he does but I don’t see him going on any sort of run through those guys at all.

 

Abdulrashid Sadulaev says he’ll turn to MMA after the 2020 Olympics. Holy *.

 

Western style kickboxing and Muay Thai aren’t the same thing, or even particularly close.

They used to suggest that Anderson Silva had world class Muay Thai, but in reality he had nothing of the sort. Great striker, but not a conventional Muay Thai fighter in a million years.

I actually can’t recall a world class Muay Thai fighter in the UFC. It would be interesting to see but they make good money in Thailand and there’s a ‘prestige’ element to Muay Thai in Thailand that MMA doesn’t have.

 

This. ‘Real’ Muay Thai is a whole different ball game.

Anyone who’s even watched highlights of a high level Muay Thai fight would see how ‘basic’ Cowboy is.

 

lol.

 

Surprised to see Connor actually has a longer reach than cowboy by 1 inch despite cowboys height

 

You did mention it, you laughed at someone calling it basic and then said look at his kickboxing record. Two different things.