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Messi is not the greatest

Discussion in 'World Football' started by Seosamh Máirtín, Jan 20, 2012.

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  1. MattMcG

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    Dude it's a team game. It wasn't Zico vs Maradonna.
     
    MattMcG, Jan 21, 2012
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  2. Mystic Penguin

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    Messi has won more at international level than 99% of players will.
     
    Mystic Penguin, Jan 21, 2012
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  3. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I know, just comparing the two though plus they were the best in their teams. Although nowadays its not Ronaldo V Messi, its still looked upon as that and Messi is regarded as better because he is and his team usually wins and he usually plays better.

    But in the case of Zico and Maradona, Zico was the one who usually scored, the one who usually won and the one who usually played better and was arguably classed as better. But then Maradona won the World Cup. Likewise you could also say Platini out performed Maradona season in season out but Platini never won the World Cup either.

    As great as Maradona was and its undoubted, the fact he won the World Cup is what has elevated him above players like Zico and Platini when otherwise he probably wouldnt have, but winning the World Cup is to his credit as its not easy to do and he got relatively lesser teams to two finals.


    Would be interesting to see what would happen if Ronaldo won the next World Cup in a Maradona like way if he would then be classed higher than Messi, I doubt he would but it worked for Maradona.
     
    ILoveTheCeltic, Jan 21, 2012
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  4. jkel

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    what about Charlie Mulgrew? :icon_mrgreen:
     
    jkel, Jan 21, 2012
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  5. Alba Gu Bráth88

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    That's a fantastic point. :50:
     
    Alba Gu Bráth88, Jan 21, 2012
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  6. Scarecrow

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    Pele is a * moron summed up by the fifa 100 list.
     
    Scarecrow, Jan 21, 2012
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    pele is a bit of a * but, on hi fifa 100 list, no larsson, none of the lions etc
     
    Heisenberg, Jan 21, 2012
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  8. Scarecrow

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    Diouf and Saviola ffs:56::56::56:
     
    Scarecrow, Jan 21, 2012
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  9. Heisenberg

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    diouf * :rofl:
     
    Heisenberg, Jan 21, 2012
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  10. PaddyBhoy-1888

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    Why do people always judge individual players on how many World Cups they've won? A World Cup is a team effort, even if Messi played the greatest he's ever played, if his teammates don't play well, they'll lose.
     
    PaddyBhoy-1888, Jan 21, 2012
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  11. Twisty Rodgers out !!! Gold Member

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    Goalkeepers and defences now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goalkeepers and defences in Pele's day
     
    Twisty, Jan 21, 2012
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    Why the :97:? Imo Argentina have a good squad, but lack a good few players to be a great squad and I doubt they will win a world cup in the next 10-12 years that Messi will still be playing in.
    Is that such a ludicrous statement? Don't think it is.
     
    greengrocer, Jan 21, 2012
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  13. Spring Time Gold Member Gold Member

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    I put the :97: after you said they will never win a world cup,
    which they have.
     
    Spring Time, Jan 21, 2012
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    kris_bhoy_1916, Jan 21, 2012
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    what an arrogant *:56:
    still pele though
     
    Ryan109, Jan 21, 2012
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  16. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Messi is a greater player now than Pele was and Messi is 24.

    That must hurt the old man, even more than his limp *.
     
    PaulM1888, Jan 21, 2012
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    Haha, so many bitter messi bodyguards
     
    peaky95, Jan 21, 2012
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    Rude Bhoy, Jan 21, 2012
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    u fall asleep on the key board?:56:
     
    Joe T, Jan 21, 2012
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    I was only listing earthborn humans, superman for example, like mulgrew is better than pele but i think its an unfair comparison :icon_mrgreen:
     
    Dianbobo, Jan 21, 2012
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