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Madeleine McCann

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by CrazyBhoy, Aug 12, 2007.

Discuss Madeleine McCann in the TalkCeltic Pub area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Geez peace :56:
     
  2. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Did they have a car at the time though? the car they searched for DNA they only hired 25 days after she went missing.
     
  3. Jax Teller

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    I’ve not watched the documentary yet but heres my theory based on what I’ve read over the years.

    I think Madeline was being a bit of a handful on the holiday (or perhaps all the time as kids usually are). The McCanns were wanting to go galavanting with their pals to dinner but they obviously had the burden of the kids.

    The twins were good sleepers but Madeline wasn’t, and after being a handful all day they decided to give her a light sedative, (being doctors they would know how much to “safely” give a child).

    I think they misjudged the dosage or perhaps Madeline took a reaction to it and died.

    The McCanns panicked. Being in a different country not knowing the judicial system they were unsure if they would be locked up and the twins removed from them so decided to cover it up.

    This would explain why:

    -they washed Madelines comforter (her saliva/DNA would have been all over it with traces of the sedative).

    -cadaver dogs picked up a scent in the room.

    -DNA found in rental car even though they rented it after she went missing.

    -long journeys clocked up on rental car (disposing of body).

    -general weird statements/behaviour such as screaming “they’ve taken Madeline!” why wouldn’t she assume she’d wandered off? Why were they out playing tennis laughing away mere days after Madeline went missing? Did Gerry even shed a single tear in public? Why did Gerry say in an interview “there is nothing to implicate us in her death”. Was it a subconscious slip up? As to this day she is still a missing person.

    To sum up,it was an accidental death, the McCanns panicked, hid the body until they had a chance to transport it to her final resting place via the rental car.
     
  4. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Hid it where though? She was last seen at 6pm when Kate and Gerry got the Kids from a kids club in the hotel, Gerry then went to play Tennis for an hour. So it was after 7pm when Kate and Gerry were back together in the room and by 8.30pm they were already at that bar - so they had 1 hour and 25 minutes at the most if Madeleine had died before Gerry got back for Kate to tell him, them to calm down enough to plan what to do, hide the body get back changed and then go to that bar.

    I dont think it could possibly have been done, they didn't have a car either so it's not like they just took her out in a car drove 10 minutes away buried her and then went back and had an hour to settle down before going out - theyd have had to walk somewhere unseen.
     
  5. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Aye.
     
  6. Senna s1979

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    That's not true. Watch those documentaries from Squinty's post.
     
  7. McChiellini..

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    I think you're theory is what likely happened mate :50:
     
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  8. Twisty Rodgers out !!! Gold Member

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    So the folk that believe Kate & Gerry(no laughing at the back), what do you believe happened ?
     
  9. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Who is that guy doing it though?

    Im 10 minutes in and it seems to all be based on 2nd and 3rd hand accounts of "what Gerry/Kate" told me which you know never to really listen to what people said as what they told them, they probably changed 50% to what they told as they couldnt remember or jumped to conclusions based on what they heard. He then says the McCann's tried to create a narritive of a violent break in with the shutters broken even though the shutters werent broken.

    Then just after that he says the shutters were "almost impossible" to open from the outside - what is almost impossible? he then shows video of a police guy actually opening the shutters from the outside? - he claims at this point that it clearly shows the shutters were not damaged which is proof that Gerry and Kate lied about the shutters being broken.

    But Gerry or Kate so far have never said what happened. Gerry's sister said Gerry told her they were 'jemmied', Kate's dad said Kate told him they were 'broken' and some reporter guy said Kate told him they were 'smashed'.

    Whats most likely to me is they told them on the phone the shutters and windows were open and they must have broke in from outside the window. Those 3 people then jumped to conclusions and assumed the guy broke through shutters on the outside somehow - shutters it can be seen in the video can be unlocked and pushed up fron the outside in 2 seconds.
     
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  10. Tony.

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    The 48 unanswered questions police asked Kate McCann.
    During the interrogation, police asked:

    1 On May 3, 2007, around 22:00, when you entered the apartment, what did you see? What did you do? Where did you look? What did you touch

    2 Did you search inside the master bedroom wardrobe

    3 (Shown two photographs of her bedroom wardrobe) Can you describe its contents?

    4 Why was the curtain by the sofa near the side window tampered with? Did someone go behind the sofa?

    5 How long did your search of the apartment take after you detected Madeleine's disappearance?

    6 Why did you say Madeleine had been abducted?

    7 Assuming Madeleine was abducted, why did you leave the twins to go to the 'Tapas' and raise the alarm? The supposed abductor could still be in the apartment.

    8 Why didn't you ask the twins then what happened to their sister or why didn't you ask them later on?

    9 When you raised the alarm at the 'Tapas' what exactly did you say - what were your exact words?

    10 What happened after you raised the alarm there?

    11 Why did you go and warn your friends instead of shouting from the verandah?

    12 Who contacted the authorities?

    13 Who took place in the searches?

    14 Did anyone outside the group learn of her disappearance in those following minutes?

    15 Did any neighbour offer you help?

    16 What does "we let her down" mean?

    17 Did Jane Tanner tell you that night she'd seen a man with a child?

    18 How were the authorities contacted and which police force was alerted?

    19 During the searches, with the police there, where did you search for Maddie, how and in what way?

    20 Why did the twins not wake up during that search or when they were taken upstairs?

    21 Who did you phone after the occurrence?

    22 Did you call Sky News?

    23 Did you know the danger of calling the media, because it could influence the abductor?

    24 Did you ask for a priest?

    25 By what means did you divulge Madeleine's features, by photographs or by any other means?

    26 Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie's bed without moving?

    27 What was your behaviour that night?

    28 Did you manage to sleep?

    29 Before travelling to Portugal, did you make any comment about a foreboding or a bad feeling?

    30 What was Madeleine's behaviour like?

    31 Did Maddie suffer from any illness or take any medication?

    32 What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister?

    33 What was Madeleine's relationship like with her brother and sister, friends and school mates?

    34 As for your professional life, in how many and which hospitals have you worked?

    35 What is your medical speciality?

    36 Have you ever done shift work in any emergency services or other services?

    37 Did you work every day?

    38 At a certain point you stopped working, why?

    39 Are the twins difficult to get to sleep? Are they restless and does that cause you uneasiness?

    40 Is it true sometimes you despaired at your children's behaviour and it left you feeling very uneasy?

    41 Is it true that in England you even considered handing over Madeleine's custody to a relative?

    42 In England, did you medicate your children? What type of medication?

    43 In the case files, you were shown canine forensic testing films. After watching them, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    44 When the sniffer dog also marked human blood behind the sofa, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    45 When the sniffer dog marked the scent of corpse coming from the vehicle you hired a month after the disappearance, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    46 When human blood was marked in the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    47 When confronted with the results of Maddie's DNA, carried out in a British lab, collected from behind the sofa and the boot of the vehicle, did you say you couldn't explain any more than you already had?

    48 Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter's disappearance?
     
  11. Drakhan Nac Mac Feegle Gold Member

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    They killed her. Whether accidentaly or not doesnt matter since they have covered it up.
    They should have been in prison just on child neglect alone.
     
  12. Twisty Rodgers out !!! Gold Member

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    The McCanns own spokesman confirmed there was no evidence of a break in. Anybody daft enough to believe they lying * story is mental.
     
  13. The Prof Administrator Administrator

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    @Jax Teller .........................Are you seriously saying that they hid the wee lassie's body, then a number of weeks later right under the gaze of the police and the World's Media, they hired a car and dumped her body ?


    No offence mate but that just sounds totally batshit crazy.
     
  14. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Theres no evidence of anything though. If there was they'd probably have found out what happened.
     
  15. Tony.

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    Im always of the opinion that they are guilty and they are being protected by the top brass.
     
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  16. Twisty Rodgers out !!! Gold Member

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    As I said earlier, the only evidence is from the sniffer dogs and the dna found in the hire car.

    What evidence is there she was abducted ? That's right. None.
     
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    If the patio door was opened then they coulda went in that way and out the window.

    really don’t know what to make of it all.

    Hiding the body in the church is a possible theory to. As they mentioned in the doc that the police were to search it and dunno if they didn’t actually go through with the search or not or if it was to late
     
  18. Twisty Rodgers out !!! Gold Member

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    How do you explain her dna being found in a car they hired 25 days after she was, supposedly, abducted ?
     
  19. ILoveTheCeltic

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    For me there had to be a team of people.

    1. The McCann and the people they were with or know are psychopaths who were doing dodgy stuff and then had to collaborate between each other and other people they knew in the area to hide the body and cover everything up.

    2. There had to be a group of people there looking to abduct kids working together. Could have been from a few things. Someone working at the Apartments noticed their behaviour and alerted people. Someone working at the bar they were in every night alerted people or some random people just noticed them with kids during the day and without them at night and worked out over the days they were being left alone.

    I can't imagine Gerry and Kate alone done it or that one guy alone randomly broke in and done it.

    The most suspicous thing for me is the Bar noted down in their Reservations that they were to be booked in every night at 8.30 as they were leaving their kids alone. But then you'd think surely everyone who worked in the bar and seen that would have been questioned and checked and had their phones checked etc to see if they contacted any dodgy people to tell them that.
     
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  20. ILoveTheCeltic

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    There was no full DNA match though, it was partial DNA that could have been from Gerry, Kate, her or one of her brothers or sisters and one of the DNA things they said was partial DNA from 17 different people. They also could not tell what the DNA was from either it was that trace amounts.

    The blood in the car had no DNA.

    So it's not like it actually was her DNA or that they knew where the DNA was from - saliva, sweat, blood. It's also not unlikely that her DNA would be in the car if they were carrying some of her things around which they would have been.