Hip-Hop and Rap is at its best right now.

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  1. Joe1888Celtic

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    Can't compare hip-hop to gangster rap 2pac biggie Dr dre snoop dogg eazy-e ice cube were miles better than the artist nowadays
     
  2. CelticCiaran

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    I really liked Cashis too, supposedly they are gonna try to get him mainstream soon.

    Yelawolf is * IMO, dunno why Em signed him.
     
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    Almost every song you've mentioned in this thread (including all four of these) have been singles, which says a lot in itself about your musical taste.
     
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    [youtube]lH3hrtp1T84[/youtube]

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  6. KRS-1888 The Bridge Is Over

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    A good healthy Beef is needed.One like Nas and Jay z's to get people interested and a bit of publicity.The mainstream Rap game has been dead because people just aren't interested in an ex prison officer or sell-out talking about how much money they've got.And as much as i love Em he hasn't really been up to much at all since the whole Murder Inc/Benzino thing.
    I remember while the Game and 50cent beef was in full steam i was rushing home from school to see what had been released that day,as there was just non tracks music being released that had a hungry,angry rapper taking out the whole gunit family and anyone else stupid enough to get in his way.That was serious,but a feud not involving any of that "thug" mentallity and just about the music would be very welcome in my eyes.
     
  7. format

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    Come on - you didn't really buy into that did you? The whole thing was clearly manufactured for the purposes of hype and record sales.
     
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    Jay and Nas was purely on wax, but I think there could have been some truth to the Game - G-Unit stuff.
     
  9. JrOhara2

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    The game doesnt really know the difference between Mixtapes and Albums, because is tapes are always class and then you get his albums and theres only a few good tunes.
    Liam, Diddy was never good, not even when Biggie was around imo, but his latest CD has brought me to like him.

    Im not saying i dont like the old * by pac, big, nas etc. Im just saying Hip hop was quiet for way too long and all these artists, mainstream or not have brought it back.

    But i did love the G-Unit days
     
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    lol @ this thread.


    hiphop and rap isnt the music the OP posted, its commercial hip pop =gash.


    you want some proper rap checkout immortal technique, got given one of his mixtapes from my mate who was in NYC in 02. never looked back since.


    the majority of music released nowadays is just commercialised garbage to make money for some big record label.

    only genuine original music gettin produced nowadays is electronic, dub/minimal/prog house.
     
  11. JrOhara2

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    you mean songs like 'dance with the devil' and 'the cause of death'.
    Music is to be enjoyed, and if you enjoy those songs, you need help.
     
  12. format

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    Funny, that's the same way I feel about most of the stuff you've posted.

    3rd time of asking - did you listen to any of the vids I posted?

    Here's the lyrics of the song in bold

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    [Verse 1]
    I once knew a * whose real name was William
    his primary concern, was making a million
    being the illest hustler, that the world ever seen
    he used to * moviestars and sniff coke in his dreams
    a corrupted young mind, at the age of thirteen
    * never had a father and his mom was a feen
    she put the pipe down, but forever yeah she was sober
    her sons heart simultaneously grew colder
    he started hanging out selling bags in the projects
    checking the young chicks, looking for hit and run prospects
    he was fascinated by material objects
    but he understood money never bought respect
    he build a reputation cause he could hustle and steal
    but got locked once it didn't hesitate to squeal
    so criminals he chilled with didn't think he was real
    you see me and * like this have never been equal
    I dont project my insurecurity's at other people
    he feeded for props like addicts with pipes and needles
    so he felt he had to prove to everyone he was evil
    a fever minded young man with infinite potetial
    the product of a ghetto breed capatalistic mental
    coincidentally dropped out of school to sell weed
    dancing with the devil, smoked until his eyes would bleed
    but he was sick of selling trees and gave in to his greed
    
    [Hook]
    Everyone trying to be trife never face the consequences
    you propably only did a month for minor offences
    ask a * doing life if he had another chance
    but then again there's always the wicked at new and advanced
    dance forever with the devil on a code cell block
    but thats what happens when you rape, murder and sell rock
    devils used to be gods, angels that fell from the top
    there's no diversity because we're burning in the melting pot
    
    [Verse 2]
    So Billy started robbing *, anything he could do
    he'd get his respect back, in the eyes of his crew
    starting fights over little *, up on the block
    stepped up to selling mothers and brothers the crack rock
    working overtime for making money for the crack spot
    hit the jackpot and wanted to move up to cocaine
    for filling the scarface fantasy stuck in his brain
    tired of the block * treating him the same
    he wanted to be major like the cut throats and the thugs
    but when he tried to step to 'em, * showed him no love
    they told him any * coward can sell drugs
    any * * with a gun, can bust slugs
    any * with a red shirt can front like a blood
    even Puffy smoked the * up in a club
    but only a real thug can stab someone till they die
    standing in front of them, starring straight into their eyes
    Billy realized that these men were well guarded
    and they wanted to test him, before business started
    suggested raping a * to prove he was cold hearted
    so now he had a choice between going back to his life
    or making money with made men, up in the cife
    his dreams about cars and ice, made him agree
    a hardcore * is all he ever wanted to be
    and so he met them friday night at a quarter to three
    
    [Hook]
    
    [Verse 3]
    They drove around the projects slow while it was raining
    smoking blunts, drinking and joking for entertainment
    untill they saw a woman on the street walking alone
    three in the morning, coming back from work, on her way home
    and so they quietly got out the car and followed her
    walking through the projects, the darkness swallowed her
    they wrapped her shirt around her head and knocked her onto the floor
    this is it kid now you got your chance to be raw
    so Billy oaked her up and grapped the chick by the hair
    and dragged her into a lobby that had nobody there
    she struggled hard but they forced her to go up the stairs
    they got to the roof and then held her down on the ground
    screaming shut the * up and stop moving around
    the shirt covered her face, but she screamed the clouts
    so Billy stomped on the *, until he broken her jaw
    the dirty * knew exactly what they were doing
    they kicked her until they cracked her ribs and she stopped moving
    blood leaking through the cloth, she cried silently
    and then they all proceeded to rape her violently
    Billy was meant to go first, but each of them took a turn
    ripping her up, and choking her until her throat burned
    a broken jaw mumbled for * but they weren't concerned
    when they were done and she was lying *, broken and broos
    one of them * pulled out a brand new twenty-two
    they told him that she was a witness of what she'd gone through
    and if he killed her he was guaranteed a spot in the crew
    he thought about it for a minute, she was practicly dead
    and so he leaned over and put the gun right to her head
    
    (Sample from "Survival of the Fittest" by Mobb Deep)
    I'm falling and I can't turn back
    I'm falling and I can't turn back
    
    [Verse 4]
    Right before he pulled the trigger, and ended her life
    he thought about the cold pain with the platinum and ice 
    and he felt strong standing along with his new brothers
    cocked the gat to her head, and pulled back the shirt cover
    but what he saw made him start the cringine studder
    cuz he was starring into the eyes of his own mother
    she looked back at him and cried, cause he had forsaken her
    she cried more painfully, than when they were raping her
    his whole world stopped, he couldn't even contiplate
    his corruption had succesfully changed his fate
    and he remembered how his mom used to come home late
    working hard for nothing, cause now what was he worth
    he turned away from the woman that had once given him birth
    and crying out to the sky cause he was lonely and scared
    but only the devil responded, cause * wasn't there
    and right then he knew what it was to be empty and cold
    and so he jumped off the roof and died with no soul
    they say death take you to a better place but I doubt it
    after that they killed his mother, and never spoke about it
    and listen cause the story that I'm telling is true
    cuz I was there with Billy Jacobs and I raped his mom to
    and now the devil follows me everywhere that I go
    infact I'm sure he's standing among one of you at my shows
    and every street cypher listening to little thugs flowe
    he could be standing right next to you, and you wouldn't know
    the devil grows inside the hearts of the selvish and wicked
    white, brown, yellow and black colored is not restricted
    you have a self destructive destiny when your inflicted
    and you'll be one of gods children and fell from the top
    there's no diversity because we're burning in the melting pot
    so when the devil wants to dance with you, you better say never
    because the dance with the devil might last you forever

    A song which examines the drug and thug culture in society and is actually critical of it. Exactly what rap should be all about. What exactly is wrong with that?
    Are you annoyed because it doesn't objectify women enough or something?
     
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  13. JrOhara2

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    Yes i did listen to your songs, and they weren't for me, but im sure you like them.

    Ive heard the songs and looked at the lyrics, i just dont see how you can enjoy that.

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0D5msU_SCw[/YOUTUBE]

    [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsBTz0YaVmo[/YOUTUBE]

    I love listening to unrecognized artists, not underground and not main stream but with a feel that they should be going somewhere.
     
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    What is it exactly you like about the rap you listen to then? Can you explain with any real depth?
     
  15. KRS-1888 The Bridge Is Over

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    I seriously doubt 50cent would've agreed to have his name and reputation mercilessly ridiculed the way it was.G unit was left with no credibility,i doubt it was manafactured.The whole episode saw Game dropped from his label too as Dr Dre and Eminem chose to stick by 50cent as he was their find basically and worth more at the time.
     
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    Honestly I don't understand the whole hip-hop/rap thing. I like songs that I can relate to, I don't understand how a white teenagers from Scotland, are signing along to "poppin' caps in * *" and "getting stack son", lamborghini motors, and whatever else ridiculous * these guys spout. :56:
     
  18. KRS-1888 The Bridge Is Over

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    You seem to have a very stereotypical view of rap music.It's not all about drive-bys and degrading comments about woman,plenty of rap artists deliver a real message such as Public Enemy,Dead Prez and even Eminem when he's not clowning around.
    Rap music isn't just American theres plenty of English rappers and Scottish rappers who are actually very talented.
    I like rap music because it has so much more personality and culture around it than that * people go out and buy like sheep that's on the radio_Out of curiosity what kind of music do you usually listen to??
     
  19. Papa Lazarou Hello Dave Gold Member

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    any you know tre(y) d?

    song called gutter *?the album thats on is no bad.canny beat a bit of 2pac,cypress hill or nwa but
     
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    I am enjoying this thread hearing all the different points of view reading through the posts some people seem to think that its a young persons thing i am 35 my point is someone who is 16-25 will like the new fake because lil wayne or drake was there introduction were as someone like me my 25-40 my introduction was nas, illmatic and wu tang 36 chambers the first time i heard illmatic i thought how is mainstream not noticing this music most of my mates where into oasis and blur now that was a real beef lol . PS Now i am older i am glad mainstream did nt get a hold of nas rakim etc .Am i the oldest hip hop fan on TC