Post Split Home and aways.

Hearts scored 9 points in their last 14 games and that was when they finished in the bottom 6. There were a mess.

What Killie done last year was unrepeatable. Losing Clarke and their best players was going to make the top 6 a tough ask.

 

Nobody would have predicted Livi would make it though.

Motherwell were a team many thought would replace Kilmarnock but it wasn’t a guarantee.

Here’s a thread of people on this forum predicting the top 6 at the start of the season, nobody had Livingston anywhere near it and most people had Hearts.

http://www.talkceltic.net/forums/threads/scottish-premiership-predictions-season-2019-20.150835/

 

When buying your season ticket your buying with 19 home games in mind

Anything less is wrong

 

It can never be less than 19 it’s in the contract with the spfl

 

Everyone plays each other 3 times, at which point the top 6 and bottom 6 split and play each other one more time.

If someone can't understand that then said person is mentally challenged.

 

Probably the best way of doing it but the TV deal still gets 4 celtic vs rangers matches. Pretty similar to how alot of leagues do it. Some will play the first set, then half the points (rounding down) then split to Championship and relegation groups. I'm not a fan of the halving points.

 

This was the original sensible idea pitched, and was shot down in flames by the other clubs who saw their 'old firm matches' halved if they dropped into the bottom half. The financial fear factor saw this Frankenstein monstrosity arise... just like the playoff should have been a simple double-header between 2nd bottom and 2nd in the championship. Instead it's stacked heavily in favour of the SPFL team to stay up, which diminishes the point of it

 

Media going on about how rainjurz will have 3 away games to Celtic’s 2 that’s because at the split the * will have had 17 home games to our 16!

absolute wankbags!

 

As far as I know, they organise it so that everyone plays 19 at home, and 19 away. As close as possible, they try to ensure that the "split" teams play each other twice at home and twice away, but if that isn't possible, then they go for a 3/1 or a 1/3 ...... But the 19/19 home and away is sacrosanct.

 

No chance of that happening - try selling TV rights with only two Celtic vs hun games a season!

 

This is a gripe of mines aswell, if we get sent away then thousands of paying customers get shafted yet again. The fannies have * it with this run of games we are going through right now.

 

When will the post split fixtures be released. If I remember correctly it was only about a week or two before the first split game which didn’t give the Irish clubs much time to sort out buses, boats, hotels etc.

 

I think the whole 12 team setup with split is now farcical..

The home/away gripes, who you play where/when, fan’s being able to plan in advance etc etc etc .... it all revolves around suiting the SFA , spfl ... and of course the tv companies.

I get the argument about 4 Derby’s and tv companies wanting that... but that’s at the root of the problem. Should we be letting tv deals (and therefore tv companies) dictate the structure of our football leagues?

Id go straight to a 20 team setup .
Having Dundee and Ayrshire Derby’s twice a season would be interesting , maybe St Mirren v Morton as well.

Instead of 4 Glasgow Derby’s you’d have up to 4 different county/city rivalries playing twice a season. Having to play the Huns twice in the league is plenty for me...

It might dent the tv income initially... but I’d think we’d have a better overall product to sell and might make the fewer Glasgow Derby’s seem that bit more valuable. We had 4 seasons without them and all survived. In fact you could argue the Celtic v Aberdeen games were more important. They finished 2nd 3 seasons in a row pushing Sevco to 3rd in one.

The English footballing public’s general view of Scottish football is that the Celtic/Sevco matches are all that matters .. the tv companys attitude not only reflects this but continues to propagate it. We should not let them run our game.

I think it would lead to a more exciting league structure and better and more varied games.

It could also be used as a way of getting rid of the plastic pitches by serving notice to the ‘offenders’ that they have 24 months to comply or either be relegated or ineligible for promotion.

 

Non-starter really.

A 20 team league would mean less games v the huns, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and more versus the likes of Greenock Morton, Ayr United, Arbroath.

From a broadcasting and spectator stand-point that's not going to be attractive.

It's mental that a country of Scotland's populace has 4 senior leagues but as long as they're commercially viable then who are we to say that some should amalgamate? But instead of 4 clubs within a small radius in the likes of Falkirk (Falkirk, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion, East Stirling) they would surely be more competitive channelling those resources into a single local team, albeit that might not sit well with fans of those teams.

@Keano88's idea seems the most reasonable. A slight increase in teams but gets rid of the seasonal anomalies, playing some teams 3 times at home and others once.

 

I thought this as well but @Blochairnbhoy put me right

you will still see 19 home games, you will see 2 of the top 6 teams 3 times at paradise
instead of the normal 2

but might only see the likes of Aberdeen once at paradise when they are one of the biggest games of our season when it should be 2

no matter which way you look at it , its still a *

 

Unfortunately they can’t announce the post-split fixtures until it’s mathematically certain as to who is in the top and bottom 6. As it stands there is a four point gap between 6th and 7th, meaning that if it stays that way the fixtures could be announced during the week beginning 23rd March - which is a full three weeks before the post-split fixtures would actually begin (due to an international break).

 

Aye, there area lot of teams that just aren't needed really, not in the professional setup at least.

Totally agree that a few could merge themselves and actually be a more competitive club - but if that isn't an option, the desire to compete, then whats the point in being in the professional league setup and diluting the overall product.
Even cutting the leagues down to 30 teams and 3 leagues of ten, or two of 15 -or in Keanos idea one with 14, the other with 16.

 

You pay for 17 league games and two games be it friendlies or qualifiers that's how they get round it in regards to season tickets

 

If I remember correctly a good few year back some team that finished 7th had more points than the team that finished 6th

Now that’s mad lol