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Serie A 2019-20

Discussion in 'World Football' started by StPauli1916, Jul 1, 2019.

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  1. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I watched Dusseldorf v Koln earlier as well mate. (Some atmosphere)

    The EPL has the money but ffs the atmosphere at Everton v Spuds was a joke. All Sky wanted to do was to talk about the injury. Pathetic.
     
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    This has had a good feel about it from the off. Wanted to see them again before we played and they're the same most game's. Excellent going forward. Must be one of the most potent in the big European league's, but slack and give you chances at the other end..

    Aye Everton and loads of game's down here really are just a letdown. Atmospheres are almost always * and the var has made it worse in my opinion..
     
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    Luis Alberto is some player..

    Should've had 2 or 3 assists and his touches are unreal..
     
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    Immobile getting taken off early for the Celtic game . Need to watch him hes incredible.
     
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    Lazio are 2/3 quality players away from being a proper class team.
     
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    We are gonna get pumped on Thursday
     
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    We are undefeated in Europe when Boli starts. Looking like he will miss Thursday

    So there :101:
     
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    :56:
     
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    27/10/19

    Atalanta go 1-0 behind to win 7-1.



    03/11/19
    To then get beat by Cagliari.



    5th in Serie A on 21pts. Roma in 3rd with 22pts. Started the season where they finished last and looking like a good solid squad.
     
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  12. Henrik 07 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Balotelli: Keep calm and. . . sweat the shirt

    "Verona vs Brescia 1911" some necessary premises / reflections:
    - we were not in Verona, and this is because the card has prevented us, so we know the episodes that have caused so much public debate to be heard only through hearsay or through more or less official statements;

    - for some time we do not believe in the general media, which are increasingly looking for the scoop at any cost (other than the trash of Barbara D'Urso!);

    - at the stadium we are profoundly apolitical, and as already mentioned on other occasions, in many ways we are anti-racist (for this reason we invite you to read one of our 2015 communiqués, in which we treat the topic in question, pointing out some concepts dear to us. Here is the link:

    for this reason, let's be clear, we certainly don't feel better than other Ultras groups and above all we don't think we have the truth in our pockets ;

    - we simply feel free to express some concepts without the possibility of denials or exploitation;

    - precisely because of what was said in the aforementioned statement, we believe that - fundamentally - the supporters currently cannot be considered racist; in fact, in each team more and more young people play from other continents, and they are certainly not challenged or insulted for this reason;

    - unfortunately, however, racism exists, existed and perhaps will always exist, above all in the civil society in which we live, where citizens are increasingly exposed to discrimination of all sorts , and this regardless of their citizenship (to remain in football, the the most glaring example is that of the fan card, which criminalizes and discriminates against Italian fans who have not signed it;

    - racism not only exists, but it is also widening, and this also thanks to the general ignorance, to the fears of an increasingly uncertain future, and above all thanks to those who legitimize it and justify it, perhaps proposing / issuing liberticidal laws against the Ultras;

    - in the face of certain episodes, some of which are very doubtful, we should ask ourselves why the media, the institutions and the leaders of Italian football have only just started shouting at the scandal, and only report part of the problem, much more complex than we want make believe;

    - it is said that the stadium is the mirror of society, therefore, also considering the level of ignorance, violence and incivility achieved - not by chance - by Italian society, certain blatant, provocative and apparently racist demonstrations should not surprise, yet we are scandalized by every footstep, without even deepening the truth of the facts (an example above all: after "Napoli vs Brescia" of this championship, one of the major Italian sports newspapers had denounced the biancoblù fans present in Naples for ignominious choirs apparently against the Neapolitans, obviously hoping for an exemplary conviction, luckily, while the mud machine and summary justice was already starting, the first retractions came and the magazine was forced to rectify the news, in reality the choirs were actually made, but not by the Brescians, in fact the Neapolitan supporters themselves had been the ones who, besides ap ruining the adversaries anticipating them in the alleged intentions, with a strong self-irony they had wanted to denounce the typical conformism of the Italian society and the servility of many national media. In this case it went well, the truth prevailed and no innocent person paid, but history shows that it was not always the case for Ultras);

    - precisely because we have often been victims of prejudice, institutional violence, media and judicial errors, we do not like to judge and prosecute others publicly ;

    - despite this, and although none of us know Mario Balotelli personally, we have to admit that we had conflicting opinions (compared to those who call him a sacrificial victim) and unflattering to his account even before he wore our jersey;

    - moreover, we were not the only ones to have had doubts about him, if it is true that thousands of fans from different Italian / foreign squares first welcomed him with open arms, and then disavowed him for his attitude ( and certainly not because of the color of the skin), sometimes childish, often unsavory;

    - after all, his enterprises inside and - above all - outside the football fields, the famous "Balotellate" for instance, are by now a known and overt history;

    - not for this reason we have opposed or denigrated him when he arrived in Brescia; on the contrary, we have accepted and respected him like all the other Brescia players who wear our Jersey, less famous players than him, but who have shown - right from the start - passion and a spirit of sacrifice;

    - the fact that you live in Brescia and you wear our jersey, however, does not raise it above everything and everyone, and the arrogance that seems to shine through all the time is not justifiable, especially when you wear it camp and it becomes a cause of destabilization for the team and of tension and embarrassment for the fans (as far as Brescia is concerned, we refer in particular to the middle finger exhibited as a response to Inter fans for their chorus against, perhaps offensive and provocative, but certainly not racist, not to mention the photographer Balotelli -after the substitution "suffered" by Marassi- broke the camera he was working with);

    - Balotelli, among other things, should know that for much more venial errors than those he committed (even in a recent past), any fan would have been "massacred", denounced and finally warned of for years;

    - having said that, we are extremely convinced that Balotelli in all respects is Italian , and - as far as we are concerned - even from Brescia (although he has always shown his passion for Milan), but he must convince himself of one thing: precisely because he plays in Brescia from Brescia, his dedication to the cause and his commitment must be equal - or even higher - than those of his companions(who among other things must not be forgiven a past to say the least ... over the top), above all they must be greater than those made to date , and with this we are not referring, of course, to the only two goals made, which are also irrelevant;

    - for us, in fact, what matters most is the spirit of sacrifice, passion, respect, motivation, the sweaty jersey , concepts that at the moment would seem unknown to him (for this we hope to be soon proven wrong);

    - so to speak, for his part (as indeed for all the other Brescia players) we want a total commitment, at least until he wears our jersey;

    - no one has ever put pressure on him, so the nervousness that grips him and turns him into negative every time he takes the field (not only in Verona) is unjustified, at least for us;

    - if he was not psychologically ready to face a supporter like that of Verona and - above all - a game as delicate as that of Sunday, in which a city (ours) played salvation and a coach - among the most beloved of all - he played his last chance, he had to say it and give way to someone less ... nervous than he; no one would be * off, on the contrary ...;

    - it was not the first time Balotelli played in Verona, and having seen his past in the ranks of Inter and Milan, he knew well the Gialloblù fans and the value of a derby, so, for better or for worse, he also knew what he could to meet; moreover, they confirm that the provocations against him were really marginal (he even publicly admitted it), and we know very well how much the Scaligeri fans can expire in provocation (after all, rightly or wrongly, of this peculiarity they have always made a boast);

    - this obviously does not mean that some choirs are legitimate and acceptable , but also that the Gialloblù fans are not all racists, and that the Curva del Verona is a sort of KKK den, as some would have us believe (this is also demonstrated by the fact that to cause "seriously" Balotelli were very few fans, among other "untied" from the choruses of the rest of the Curva);

    - having said all this, we are willing to start again from Saturday also - and above all - with Mario Balotelli this summer (provided, of course, that the company stops blackmailing us and puts us in a more than dignified condition to enter the stadium), that is, with the player who had declared that he had put his head in order, to love our splendid city, and to give his best to change (obviously for the better) the biancoblù history of the last few years.

    Always on the Ultras side?!:
    - be clear to all: we do not want to be devil's lawyers, and we do not even want to pass as pro-Verona sympathizers (we are not looking for new friends, the rivalry for us is indeed sacred), but we like to mention the gialloblù Ultras above all for their solidarity demonstrated during the dramatic months in which a boy of our group remained in a coma due to a violent and unmotivated beating of the speedy, in the station of Porta nuova, just after a derby with Verona;

    - furthermore, as questionable, the personal declarations in post-match of one of the leaders of the Verona Curve cannot justify the witch hunt unleashed by the media and institutions in the umpteenth attempt to criminalize and finally execute the whole Ultras world;

    - not to mention the provision implemented by the Verona company, which thanks to the possibility of applying the ethical code (which we so much dispute), will prevent the entry of Bentegodi for more than ten years to one of his historic fans, who had the dare to express in post-game a thought that is perhaps very strong ( which we also do not agree with, as we have already explained ), but which certainly has little or nothing to do with the stadium and cheering in general;

    - an unconventional but highly topical language; in fact it is used more and more often by public and political figures, to whom of course nobody would ever think of applying the ethical code in question;

    - for this reason we feel ourselves to condemn every gesture, every manifestly hostile and discriminatory provocation towards all our players , and not only;

    - at the same time, however, we want to give our solidarity to those who have suffered yet another liberticidal action, this time not from the Questura, which evidently did not consider the aforementioned attitude so serious, but from their own society;

    - to those who are indignant - even rightly - for some apparently racist incidents that took place inside the stadiums, let us remember that the theme of racism today is often used to create a new alarmism among the public, useful - like a horse of Troy - to introduce new instruments of repressive and mass control, which otherwise would not be justifiable and acceptable (unfortunately this method has already been used in the past, using the theme of the alleged violence of organized groups as an art).


    https://brescia1911excurvanord.net/...RxJRV04d5-HsAqw572zLZnCiyTT_AGrPiP1Ef-BUO3z1E
     
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    Napoli v Genoa is on Freesports at 19:40.
     
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    Lazio are now 3rd after beating Lecce 4-2
     
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    Inter look like they can challenge Juve this year.
     
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    I watched Juve last night and they were absolutely terrible, Sczseny (sp) kept them in it at times. Dybala made a big difference when he came on. Hopefully Inter can push them.
     
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    Talk about attention to detail. :56:
     
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    Juve were frightening here. Deadly. Looked a good game as well.

    SERIE A 23/11/19
     
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    Lazio are in some form, mental we done them home and away outwith that they've won their other 7 games out of 7.

    Juve drawing today, they've been struggling in the League for a while but sneaking results, im sure they'd won their last 2/3 League games with late goals but none today.
     
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