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VAR Last 32 UEL

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by MickeyyMack, Nov 9, 2019.

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  1. Chavez

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    Bit unfair to judge the idea on the version we’re currently seeing, anything this groundbreaking is going to take time to become smooth. Interesting point about bigger teams getting decisions more frequently, that’s something to consider. Either way much easier to proper cheat with a ref that’s the bottom line
     
  2. MickeyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK Gold Member

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    The way football in Engerland is going it wouldn’t suprise me in a few years time if each Fan Had a keyboard Installed at the seat and when Var was called ... Boom keyboard bashing , madness but nothing suprises me down er tbf
     
  3. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    VAR is *. Folk thought it could make decisions that it never could.

    It can only be fair if it is used in literally every decision/tackle/ throw in.
     
  4. Leone Naka Fan

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    English referees are incompetent and cocky enough not to use VAR most of the time. In the hands of continental referees, it's better.
     
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  5. MickeyyMack CELTIC GLASGOW OK Gold Member

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    Hope you are correct
     
  6. thailandceltic From Immigration to Domination

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    I cant even remember it in the world cup so maybe you're right haha..was it in the world cup?:43: Jaysus my memory is *... In my defence I was in Thailand for almost the entire tournament... didnt see much..
     
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  7. paulie67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    This...

    I cannot wait for it to be introduced.
    Sure VAR ain't perfect and far from it. But, the way it's being used atm with "VAR making the decisions" is not optimal.

    I've said it before... put the 'incident in question' on the big screens and let the refs use a pitchside monitor.
    This way, the ref's gets to make the final decision after reviewing said incident and importantly, the fans also get to see why the decision was made.

    Not saying the right decision is always gonna' be made, but surely it's a step forward.
    There is no 'honest * mistakes' in scottish football.!!
    That's just an easy out to fall back on when the refs are caught cheating.
     
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  8. AwesomeCaz

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    Should only be for concrete right/wrong things like offside and ball going out of play. Anything else is, as before VAR, left to individual ref interpretation which obviously can be wrong.

    Biggest issue I have is the ridiculous length of time it's taking. 20 seconds is more than long enough for numerous professional referees to check a TV screen, with instant modern technology and multiple angles. Why it's taking 3, 4, 5+ mins is beyond me.
     
  9. The Prof Administrator Administrator

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    For me it's ruining the game, every little incident is under the microscope, despite the technology ultimately it still comes down to human interpretation with a lot of the decisions.

    I think it should only be used to determine if the ball is over the line or not, the game of football is a contact sport, VAR forensically picks it apart, the way it is currently being implemented in the EPL is bordering on the farcical.
     
  10. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    How ?
     
  11. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    They still managed to get at least two of these wrong today.
     
  12. AwesomeCaz

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    * me! Maybe it's too James Bond but I never got why they couldn't just put a chip in the ball and at each line, whenever it crosses the ref gets a ping like they now finally do for goalline tech. Shouldn't even need cameras.
     
  13. paulie67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    How is it not.??
     
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  14. rudebhoy67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Var currently gets as much wrong as it does right, and not just in the epl, the Chelsea penalty during the week was farcical.

    If var were to be used in our league it would only give us a chance to be * over by more Masonic * in a room somewhere as well as the * on the field.

    Var, in our league, would be catastrophic for us, that is a fact. As for in european competition I dont see it being much better as referees blatantly favour teams from the bigger leagues anyway.

    Until technology is advanced enough for some sort of AI to be making the decisions then it's just as flawed as the system of 1 referee and 2 linesman.
     
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    Var has been implemented horrifically in England which is putting alot of people off I think. Generally in other European leagues, champions and in particular the World Cup it has been brilliant.

    Sooner we have it up here the better.
     
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  16. rudebhoy67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    How will it be better though. The only way it can be implemented is on the same system that is currently proving so utterly comical in the EPL.

    We get that same system in our league it just adds to the amount of cheats making decisions and provides even more of an excuse for the authorities and media to turn there blind eyes.
     
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  17. Slaw Gold Member Gold Member

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    The EPL version of VAR is an absolute cancer on the game.
     
  18. paulie67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Eh, the way it's being implemented down south is a far cry from the way it was used in world cup and it worked well.
    Also in the leagues it is used in across europe, it seems to work well there to.

    Seems the EPL haven't learned to put the nut in the monkey's mouth.
    Anyways, here's just a snippet of a recent article dated mid sept 2019.

    "UEFA referee chief Roberto Rosetti has urged the Premier League to alter the way they use the recently introduced VAR system, encouraging the on-field ref to review the pitch-side footage themselves, in the same way as happens in other major European leagues."
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    “I prefer a referee to watch the situation with his own eyes instead of by a man who we don’t know where he is, maybe in another place or another city!”

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    “The main reaction in Italy was positive because it something that related to justice, to do something good for football and to avoid mistakes."


    Source
     
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  19. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Because it is totally random. Some stuff they look at some times other stuff they don't. Say 'technology' to some * and they just assume it's automatically an improvement whether it is or no.
     
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  20. StPauli1916 Gold Member Gold Member

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    It was * in the world cup as well. To just blame the brits for it is * ridiculous.
     
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