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Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Paul67, Dec 17, 2010.

Discuss Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat) in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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  2. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Neither song is sectarian though.
     
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  3. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    Is the Orange Order by your definition sectarian?
     
  4. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I think calling people Orange * is sectarian.

    Of course.
     
  5. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    Ok thanks, so aslong as me singing the sad orange * song is directed at one of that organisation it’s ok though.
     
  6. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I'm not really arsed either way, it's just not something I'd sing. There are far more important things to worry about.
     
  7. Gyp Rosetti Gold Member

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    No bother, but I do agree it’s a bit cringey singing it to guys who aren’t from that background tbh. But I will challenge my right to sing it to actual orange *. :84:
     
  8. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Opposing a sectarian organisation does not equate to sectarianism.

    * the Orange Order and * any individual with a supremacist mindset.
     
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    Using sectarian language equates to sectarianism.
     
  10. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    I don't think you understand the definition of sectarianism.

    If someone said 'KKK *', would you deem that as sectarian?
     
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    I do, and I think you're just making excuses for yourself.
     
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    I really amn't. Explain the difference?

    Both are supposed 'Protestant' fraternal organisations that don't actually follow Christian beliefs of tolerance, humility and hospitality. Both are anti-Catholic and both engage in hate speech, supremacy & triumphalism.
     
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    There's plenty of ways to oppose disgusting organisations without being a bigot yourself. You are making excuses.
     
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    You've still not explained why saying * the Orange Order and * it's members is sectarianism.

    Orangeism is not a religion. It's a belief system and a disgusting one at that.
     
  15. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I said calling people orange * was sectarian. Although there's no real need for Celtic fans to be singing about the orange order anyway.
     
  16. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    And I asked why is it sectarian?

    My point wasn't that Celtic fans should or shouldn't be singing about the Orange Order.

    I just disagreed with your point that it's sectarian.
     
  17. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Do you really need it spelled out to you?

    Calling someone an orange * is sectarian because it invariably refers to a protestant.
     
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  18. Seán Mac D Gold Member Gold Member

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    Well that's just complete nonsense.

    The vast majority of Protestants find the Orange Order and it's followers abhorrent.
     
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    i know members of lodges who are not protestants.. and if you can post any link to any lodge that says only protestants can get membership then i stand corrected but i'm sure such info does not exist
     
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    Had an oul uncle pull me years ago about calling huns ‘orange *’. Baffled as to what he was talking about I quizzed him, his reply was ‘they are not all orange *, the majority are just stupid * being brain washed by a small bunch of orange *.