Marc Crosas from Barcelona

[Spaghetti]

It depends on what strachan is thinking, i know he is another midfielder but if he is one of those players that has come up on the radar as strachan said the other day, and hes thinking about the team 2-3 years from now then buying young players with a good pedigree and bringing them through steadily could save us a lot of money in the future, which is maybe why he doesnt want to sell sno either.

[col_p67]

I thin kthe trouble with Sno is that he got a taste of the first team pretty young and then assumed a position in the starting line-up was his for the taking. He needs to screw the nut, bide his time and I believe he'll be brilliant for us.

[Daver]

Originally Posted by col_p67

I thin kthe trouble with Sno is that he got a taste of the first team pretty young and then assumed a position in the starting line-up was his for the taking. He needs to screw the nut, bide his time and I believe he'll be brilliant for us.

Is the fear not that he'll start playing really well...then leave for f^ck all though? Don't get me wrong, i think he is WAY too frantic for a regular first team slot, but stranger things have happened...

[idlewildered]

meanwhile back to crosas, who we'll never get cos the Spanish clubs will do their usual palaver of selling him to another Spanish club with a buy back clause, happens every time with the half decent youngsters. so I'd expect him to be sevilla bound

[Don Corleone]

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

Couldn't agree more - some kid who is 5 foot 7 does not inspire me when it comes to grafting out a win at Tannadice on a winter's evening...

No thanks.

Someone has never heard of a 5'4'' fella called Jimmy Johnstone then. Or say that other ginger fella who's managing us, heard he was a pretty good player!

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

You have just addressed 3 of the best players ever. Do you really think this guy is (or will ever be) as good?! No.

Possibly, he's definately a good player and anybody from the Barcelona youth setup has a chance of becoming a world class player. Bojan, Dos Santos, Messi, Oleguer, Valdes, Xavi, Puyol, Reina, Fabregas, Iniesta. Who wouldn't want these players in their team? Also Lilian Thuram has compared Crosas to Xavi so that's a really unfair statement for you to make.

[Daver]

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Someone has never heard of a 5'4'' fella called Jimmy Johnstone then. Or say that other ginger fella who's managing us, heard he was a pretty good player!



Possibly, he's definately a good player and anybody from the Barcelona youth setup has a chance of becoming a world class player. Bojan, Dos Santos, Messi, Oleguer, Valdes, Xavi, Puyol, Reina, Fabregas, Iniesta. Who wouldn't want these players in their team? Also Lilian Thuram has compared Crosas to Xavi so that's a really unfair statement for you to make.

Regarding Jinky - see posts of mine relating to "best celtic player ever" - not mine (not nearly in my era), but certainly my old man's. Nothing but time for him, and he ranks with the Pele's of this world for the impact he made on the game when he played - he WAS world class.

Dos Santos - now gone from Barca, but reputed (Thierrry H) to have the potential to make it at the top Messi, Oleguer, Valdes, Xavi, Puyol, Iniesta.. don't remember then going out on loan 2 seasons in a row, but i will be happy to be proved otherwise? Certainly not Bojan.

Anyway, my point is that there is no requirement for him at CP, as he would not get a regular game - even if he IS as good as you make out, he would never displace Robson / Hartley / Brown / Donati / Sno in Strachan's eyes, and therefore is not feasible as a signing.

[1888Scott]

We have enough midfielders, we dont need this guy, won't happen... now back to defenders please

[Don Corleone]

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

Regarding Jinky - see posts of mine relating to "best celtic player ever" - not mine (not nearly in my era), but certainly my old man's. Nothing but time for him, and he ranks with the Pele's of this world for the impact he made on the game when he played - he WAS world class.

And then what about Strachan or Lennon?

Dos Santos - now gone from Barca, but reputed (Thierrry H) to have the potential to make it at the top Messi, Oleguer, Valdes, Xavi, Puyol, Iniesta.. don't remember then going out on loan 2 seasons in a row, but i will be happy to be proved otherwise? Certainly not Bojan.

I didn't say that they have all gone on loan, I'm saying that most players who come through are usually top class players. They want Crosas to go on loan because DM position is filled at Barcelona with Xavi, Yaya Toure and Marquez.

Anyway, my point is that there is no requirement for him at CP, as he would not get a regular game - even if he IS as good as you make out, he would never displace Robson / Hartley / Brown / Donati / Sno in Strachan's eyes, and therefore is not feasible as a signing.

We don't know that, we didn't think we would see Hartley and Robson even starting let alone forming a fine partnership last season but it happened and Strachan stuck with it so it's out of the realms of possibility that Crosas would get a first team place if he came, the one thing Strachan has wanted is a solid DM since the departure of Lennon, he's somewhat found that in Hartley but he'll be wanting a back up player who is like what Sammy is to the strikers and seeing as Donati and Sno are mince...

But I digress, I think that this article is a load of bollocks either way you look at it even if he's moving it's most likely to Sevilla.

[Daver]

We BOTH digress dude, as we both know (to as much an extent as possible) that the deal will never happened - as for Lennon... i never saw him as particularly strong, in truth - one of the best protectors of a ball i have ever seen live though; fantastic awareness whcih is why he cost about 6 mill!!

As for Strachan, he won the Euro cup the year i was born, so don't know him well - Ferguson seemed to have him summed up as a smarmy little c^nt some time ago though, so i'll stick with that!

[Leone Naka Fan]

I'd welcome Crosas, but how well can he take the cold temperatures? We in Croatia have had people from Brazil complaining the weather is cold... Scotland is icy compared to us. About hig height:the guy may be short, but if he's fast and can keep possession, he'd do well.

[mcgrory67]

I take your point bud, i really do, but i prefer strong players for the SPL - for many reasons, but the ability to not get kicked to f^ck and miss every 2nd game is up there.....as is the prominence of the aerial game in Scotland.

Finally, how many sunshine players come here and do well? Not many...[/quote]


the kid is class and could be just what we need in euro games,

[Flashback]

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

Dos Santos - now gone from Barca, but reputed (Thierrry H) to have the potential to make it at the top Messi, Oleguer, Valdes, Xavi, Puyol, Iniesta.. don't remember then going out on loan 2 seasons in a row, but i will be happy to be proved otherwise? Certainly not Bojan.

They let Fabregas go and look how he turned out he still came through their ranks, They let Pique go and then bought him back this year....all the guy is saying if he made it through the Barca youth system then the boy definately has ability to make it whether we have too many midfielders is neither here nor there if the boy is good enough to play for Celtic then we should definately buy him thats like saying no we dont want you Xavi because we have Donati and Graveson.

[kevtun1888]

Originally Posted by Flashback

They let Fabregas go and look how he turned out he still came through their ranks, They let Pique go and then bought him back this year....all the guy is saying if he made it through the Barca youth system then the boy definately has ability to make it whether we have too many midfielders is neither here nor there if the boy is good enough to play for Celtic then we should definately buy him thats like saying no we dont want you Xavi because we have Donati and Graveson.

Yes there is a big list of players who came through the Barca youth ranks and have been great. But there is also crap ones also

So that statement is a bit off for me.

We can not afford more wages in that position until some players go that is simple. Thats why gravesen has been told he has no future at our club, cause we want him to feck off now so we can bring another in

[studatelya]

doesnt matter we live here and we bitch abou the weather the thing isd they get to play in front of 60,000 fans and to play in the champions league and they know he would get a game here and good experience . I for one would love to see us going to teams like barca and madrid etc and taking players on loan because they have players who cant get into their first 11 but are still good players

[HenrikBhoy]

Saw him play against dundee utd, he seems a gd player and has a gd pass. Hes been compared 2 fabregas but id like 2 c him at celtic park.