Marc Crosas from Barcelona

[Davey Bhoy]

Originally Posted by cmilkbhoy

I take your point bud, i really do, but i prefer strong players for the SPL - for many reasons, but the ability to not get kicked to f^ck and miss every 2nd game is up there.....as is the prominence of the aerial game in Scotland.

so nakamura and mizuno wot about them, there not strong. havent seen mizuno but naka defo aint but youd take him in ur mid. contradicting id say

I never said i'd take Naka - in fact, i think he disappears in away games a lot of the time, and should be replaced.

[Davey Bhoy]

Originally Posted by col_p67

It's not wise to make assumptions about his ability. He could be the next Moravcik for all we know. Barca obviously rate him, or they wouldn't include a buy-back clause. My only concern would be the lack of height we'd be sporting in the midfield. Other than Donati and Sno, I don't think we have a player over 6'. I do think we'd need to shift some players first though.

And Donati is disappointing at best (i can think of far worse adjectives), and Sno will be a sub ( plus is hideous at heading a ball - almost as loose as his passing).

With some exceptions (Essien being a notable one), height normally is associated with strength with regards to footballers - so i don't understand how my previous comment of this wee kid not feasibly making a big difference in tight, physical games is so inaccurate?

[cmilkbhoy]

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

I never said i'd take Naka - in fact, i think he disappears in away games a lot of the time, and should be replaced.

well you agreed with the post with all the midfielders in it, so why was that if you wudnt take naka? and who else wont play or isnt good enough to play from it then?

[Davey Bhoy]

Originally Posted by cmilkbhoy

well you agreed with the post with all the midfielders in it, so why was that if you wudnt take naka? and who else wont play or isnt good enough to play from it then?

Of course i agreed with the post with all the midfielders in it - even the f^cking village idiot would! Why, with 11 midfielders (none of whom appear to be going ANYWHERE) would we need a further addition?

Seems pretty simple to me dude!

[cmilkbhoy]

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

Of course i agreed with the post with all the midfielders in it - even the f^cking village idiot would! Why, with 11 midfielders (none of whom appear to be going ANYWHERE) would we need a further addition?

Seems pretty simple to me dude!

when half of the list is pish or strachan wont play, get with it m8

[Hammy89]

i would say he would be worth a cheeky punt. maybe a loan?

he would be taking up the role that Naka and McGeady play. how many players do we have at the club that naturally play there? i can count four who have a realistic chance of playing there (Naka, McGeady, Mizuno and McCourt). yes, Brown, Robson, Hartley and now Caddis have proven that they can play there, but i prefer them to play in there own natural positions.

what interests me most is that Sevilla are reportedly interested in the wee fella and they usually have a great judgement on players. not many players who go there are bad players.

sadly, i don't think theres alot, if anything, in this rumour.

urgently need a left back, centre back and maybe a defensive mid and to get rid of dead wood.

[Davey Bhoy]

Originally Posted by cmilkbhoy

when half of the list is pish or strachan wont play, get with it m8

Get with it? So your "logic" is to invest in even more midfielders (and the wages to pay them) at a time when we have more than we require anyway?!

Brown, Robson, Hartley - three good centre mids. Donati and Sno who i, personally, don't rate highly but will get a game anyway.

Need for an untried kid to be taken into the squad? None that i can see...

[kevtun1888]

Originally Posted by cmilkbhoy

when half of the list is pish or strachan wont play, get with it m8

Yes but when the pish ones are raking in the best part of 100k a week you have to have a limit.

Get rid of 2 or 3 before you can sign anymore of the club itself is in danger of being in financial trouble again

[BhoyLegend1888]

why would someone from barcelonia come here?

[Davey Bhoy]

Originally Posted by BhoyLegend1888

why would someone from barcelonia come here?

To play CL football would undoubtedly be an attraction, with the (vast) possibilty of winning medals in some sphere - for a 20 year old, that would be a "feather in the cap" as such.....

See your point though - cold(er) than he is used to, would get the sh^t kicked out of him, and would be miles away from his family - sevilla looks like a better option for him (and a more likely one as well).

[celtickieran89]

He is a deep-lying playmaker who has loads of talent even if he is a small guy.

The fact he has come through at Barca says something. He is the type of midfielder we have been needing in the CL.

With Sno at the Olympics, Gravesen never playing again and Donati's constant failure to turn up in games he is worth a loan option surely.

[Davey Bhoy]

Originally Posted by celtickieran89

He is a deep-lying playmaker who has loads of talent even if he is a small guy.

The fact he has come through at Barca says something. He is the type of midfielder we have been needing in the CL.

With Sno at the Olympics, Gravesen never playing again and Donati's constant failure to turn up in games he is worth a loan option surely.

If he is that good, i don't think Barca would be willing to let him go to us, full in the knowledge of the number of players who would be picked in front of him on a regular basis. They will be wanting to guarantee him first team football. He won't get that here.

[col_p67]

[quote=Davey Bhoy;606126]And Donati is disappointing at best (i can think of far worse adjectives), and Sno will be a sub ( plus is hideous at heading a ball - almost as loose as his passing).

With some exceptions (Essien being a notable one), height normally is associated with strength with regards to footballers - so i don't understand how my previous comment of this wee kid not feasibly making a big difference in tight, physical games is so inaccurate?[/quote]

I think you might be getting my comments mixed up with someone else's, mate. I didn't say anything about that. That said, though, there is no definitive correlation between height and strength. If that were the case, football would only be played by basketball-sized players. Maradona was as strong as an ox. In the modern game, check out Tevez. Lennon is another. You also mentioned Essien. Add Cannavarro, Makalele and Carlos Puyol to the list too. Of course there are wee guys in the game who aren't physically powerful, but then you also have tall guys that suffer from the same complaint. I've never seen the guy, so I don't know what he's like, but it's never a good idea to make an assumption about a player based on something as trivial as his height.

[BhoyLegend1888]

barcelona or tattie munchies fc?

[Davey Bhoy]

[quote=col_p67;606198]

Originally Posted by Davey Bhoy

And Donati is disappointing at best (i can think of far worse adjectives), and Sno will be a sub ( plus is hideous at heading a ball - almost as loose as his passing).

With some exceptions (Essien being a notable one), height normally is associated with strength with regards to footballers - so i don't understand how my previous comment of this wee kid not feasibly making a big difference in tight, physical games is so inaccurate?[/quote]

I think you might be getting my comments mixed up with someone else's, mate. I didn't say anything about that. That said, though, there is no definitive correlation between height and strength. If that were the case, football would only be played by basketball-sized players. Maradona was as strong as an ox. In the modern game, check out Tevez. Lennon is another. You also mentioned Essien. Add Cannavarro, Makalele and Carlos Puyol to the list too. Of course there are wee guys in the game who aren't physically powerful, but then you also have tall guys that suffer from the same complaint. I've never seen the guy, so I don't know what he's like, but it's never a good idea to make an assumption about a player based on something as trivial as his height.

Fair one - esp with Cannavaro who is an ox and one of my favourite players - Italy suffered in the Euros in his absence.

With the exception of Makalele though, all the guys you mentioned have an amazing leap (see Tevez's goal against Blackburn in the 88th minute which (effectively) won them the league. Gutted.) Saha could have been another one too..

Still don't see the requirement whatsoever of a young, unproven, small, young buck coming to us - especially when he would not offer any much needed height, and when i can't see him getting much of a game! Just seems like a lot of exaggerated paper talk to me - clearly this guy will be in Spain or France (again) next season...