this poppy and soldier carry on

[MagicCalculator]

Originally Posted by caoimhin 98

your not allowed sing songs about ireland that are considered political but its permissable to parade soldiers fighting an illegal war that has caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands and then wear a poppy to commemorate their actions!

It's not just for the people in Iraq or Afghanistan though is it...

It's also to remember the service men and women who lost their lives fighting the Nazi's in WW2.

It was those people who fought for the free speech and democracy that we all enjoy and take for granted.

[Cash 67]

No idea you'd have to write to Celtic and ask them. What I would say is Charity is not forced at Celtic Park, it's voluntary, and I've never known us to glorify ourselves or give ourselves a pat on the back for helping charity, it's not about a publicity stunt for the TV camera's. I'm not suggesting that's Rangers agenda but it wouldn't surprise me, given their bad press in the past 12 months.

[Henke.]

This is ridiculous. One minute people are moaning about songs remembering fallen soldiers being sung at Celtic Park as it has nothing to do with football and then there's this. Moaning about why we didn't wear a poppy in rememberance of fallen soldiers that has nothing to do with football.

I despair. I really do.

[SloBhoy]

Originally Posted by MagicCalculator

It's also to remember the service men and women who lost their lives fighting the Nazi's in WW2.

Not only WW2, but WW1 too, even moreso, as the whole poppy thing originates from WWI and the fighting in France and Flanders in Belgium (as a result of John McCrae's poem). 11/11 is the date that marks the end of WWI

So I don't see the poppy wearing as wrong as it doesn't glorify current wars and armed combat, but pays tribute to the soldiers, who fought for freedom in WWI and WWII, although as in the UK it's also in support of soldiers fighting in NI, it loses a lot of the nobility the cause would otherwise have.

Having said that though, it still should remain a free choice and attacking someone, because they don't wear it is a low move and ignores what the movement is all about.

[Hadouken]

Originally Posted by thebhoymalone

Because we shouldn't have to glorify an army who has killed so many people of Irish and Scottish heritage

Shutup you moron, its the british army and many irish and scotish died fighting in ww1 so we should respect that

[Henke.]

Originally Posted by The Lucky Bhoy

Shutup you moron, its the british army and many irish and scotish died fighting in the army in ww1 so we should respect that

Brave or stupid. Doesn't matter really, but telling a Super he's a moron in the main forum is not very smart. :Don't:

[Hadouken]

Originally Posted by MickBhoy1888

never wore a poppy in my life and don't plan to. I don't see why Celtic should wear poppy's.

maybe because quite a few celtic players actually died fighting in ww1

[belfast1888]

I think celtic are right not to wear the poppy.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Tayside and Central | Players to wear poppy during play

But if you read this it seems we are going to wear it during play at the week-end.

[Hadouken]

Originally Posted by Henke67

Brave or stupid. Doesn't matter really, but telling a Super he's a moron in the main forum is not very smart. :Don't:

Just because he is a super doesn't give him the right to say comments like that.

Originally Posted by The Lucky Bhoy

Just because he is a super doesn't give him the right to say comments like that.

almost certain a few celtic players where in the easter rising.

[DannyBonnar]

Originally Posted by MagicCalculator

It's not just for the people in Iraq or Afghanistan though is it...

It's also to remember the service men and women who lost their lives fighting the Nazi's in WW2.

It was those people who fought for the free speech and democracy that we all enjoy and take for granted.

so why not a wear white poppy to commemarate everyone effected by war ?

[Henke.]

Originally Posted by The Lucky Bhoy

Just because he is a super doesn't give him the right to say comments like that.

But he didn't aim a personal insult at you. You aimed one right at him. I feel the same way as TBM does about it. Am I a moron for having an opinion?
He has EVERY right to voice his opinion on the matter. It might not be what you want to read but hey, that's the point of a debate. Look it up on Wiki.

[Hadouken]

ok i take that one back

[MagicCalculator]

Choosing not to wear a poppy is not wrong at all, after all that what was fought for in those far away lands, our right to freedom and the right to address our opinions.

I can understand people's opinion's over the whole Northern Ireland thing, but please let the one's who want remember the dead from WW1 and WW2 do so without fear of abuse.

Whether football should be brought into it is another matter, perhaps clubs should just sell poppies outside the grounds and let the people decide....

Originally Posted by MagicCalculator

Choosing not to wear a poppy is not wrong at all, after all that what was fought for in those far away lands, our right to freedom and the right to address our opinions.

I can understand people's opinion's over the whole Northern Ireland thing, but please let the one's who want remember the dead from WW1 and WW2 do so without fear of abuse.

Whether football should be brought into it is another matter, perhaps clubs should just sell poppies outside the grounds and let the people decide....

Even the great things that Britain has done is still over shadowed with the many terrible things they did do.