Conspircy Theories

[hoopymo]

loose change is a load of shit

people have been sending me this stupid 9/11 conspiracy video called "Loose Change." I've tried to ignore it for months now, but morons keep forwarding it to me, and I keep having to add more email addresses to my spam filter.

The ironic part is that I'm a huge conspiracy nut, and even I can't stomach this bullshit. For example, I believe that there is a small, reptile-like creature called Chupacabra that sucks the blood of goats in Mexico. Area 51? Hell yes. Roswell? Pass me the Kool-Aid. But "Loose Change" elevates bullshit to an art form. Watching this video is like being bushwhacked with stupid.

Unlike others who debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories, or "cons" for short, I'm not going to bother with going through intricate rebuttals or pointing out the hundreds of factual inaccuracies and outright lies in this "documentary," because I don't need to. In fact, I can debunk the entire story with one simple observation:

The fact that this man is alive...




...is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit.

Here's why:
1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.

2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?

Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your ass that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardize their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet.

I can picture the rebuttle now "BUT MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL."

Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's shit-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision."

Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation?

The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to nix this kid long before his video ever became popular?

There is no conspiracy.


The other type of 9/11 conspiracy email dipshits keep sending is the $20 dollar WTC conspiracy. Glenn Beck--a loud-mouthed, fat-faced asshole on CNN--has a copy of it on his website:


Further Reading:
For anyone interested in a point-by-point debunking of some of the most popular conspiracy theories out there (like the fact that steel melts at 1525° C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825° C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 ° C), check out the following links:
National Institute of Standards and Technology: Fact Sheet
Popular Mechanics
Loose Change guide


(taken from
There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons.

Complain to him not me)

[MartyC]

Originally Posted by PabloBhoy

download movies such as Zeitgeist, and Loose Change, watch, listen and learn to what has gone on in this sick world for centuries. It will open your eyes and mind!!! believe me.

i agree watch these films then tell me your not even slightly convinced.

also watch some alex jones ones. hes a bit of a looney but he has researched his stuff well.

[MartyC]

hoopy your suggestion that because they havnt bumped him off means what he says is false? hardly a basis for evidence. if he did disappear would that mean you believe him?

[hoopymo]

not necessarily but the fact that a government that planned the biggest terrorist attack ever with military precision wouldn't kill/imprison of a kid and his family for exposing their masterplan and stop it being spread everywhere is the preposterous ideal here

[MartyC]

perhaps your right but then loose change isnt the only documentary out there that suggests this and there have been countless engineering/military experts who have resigned or came forward about it.

[hoopymo]

sources for those men please

[MartyC]

ok perhaps i should not have said resigned but there have been experts who have studied it and have said it is bullshit

Top Experts To Expose 9/11 Fraud At L.A. Conference

there are a load of names in this article and there are many more in the documentaries i have mention before.

[hoopymo]

fair enough mate

but i believe said experts would have been taken out as well if these accusations were true


(ps sorry if i came off rude in my earlier posts)

[MartyC]

Originally Posted by hoopymo

fair enough mate

but i believe said experts would have been taken out as well if these accusations were true


(ps sorry if i came off rude in my earlier posts)

lol dont be daft m8y were all entitled to have an opinion ive just seen a load of these things and it has warped my view of everything.

[hoopymo]

fair enough, but if there is a cover up we will never know the truth, like JFK etc

[clagan24]

quite enjoyed that show last night, thoght both sides put their arguments across well, the truth is ot there

[CellicBhoy08]

I didnt have time to watch the full programme last night... but i have watched Loose Change before.. there isnt any substantial evidence to claim that the world trde centers were rigged with bombs to make it collapse, but there is something fishy with the supposed aeroplane that hit the Pentagon... it only left a small hole in the outer wall.. The aeroplane should have went right through this or there would have been a much bigger hole, also why was there no damage to the walls when the wings hit the Pentagon? IMO i think the US Government has lied about the events of the Pentagon. Oh and finally why was there no debris where Flight 93(4th plane) crashed?

[MartyC]

the show from last night is on the bbc i player m8

[ellboy]

There have been so many theories given for certain assassinations or assassination attempts. Some of the theories attached to those events interest me greatly. As many of these events have more than a whiff of a cover- up about them IMO.

However conspiracy theorists in general, I have no time for at all. Most of these people are proven liars and the reason for there views are purely financial. Show me a conspiracy theorist who doesn’t make any money out of his or hers fantasies and then they may be worth listening too.

[hoopymo]

i'll take you down to see a hobo that says he was abducted by aliens and anal probed