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Old 18-05-2008, 12:55 PM   #121
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When I'm king of the world it won't be a batoning from a frightened police officer rioters would have to worry about. Heavy machine-guns with interlocking fields of fire should just about do it....

Martin: Those photos are in no way proof that the chewed-hun was rioting. You are correct. We, however, are on an internet forum and I am of the opinion that people can and will judge him from the pictures and subsequent interviews. Rightly or wrongly I dinnae care.

Now, three in a row anybody? x
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Old 18-05-2008, 01:31 PM   #122
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I think this argument's over. Unlucky Martin ;)
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Old 18-05-2008, 01:43 PM   #123
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I think this argument's over. Unlucky Martin ;)
No it's not over son. You are totally in the wrong. Ask your teacher to read it and tell me what they had to say.

It has been proven that he is NOT wearing football boots and you have provided no proof that he was rioting.

Now fuck off and grow up you stupid little boy.
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When I'm king of the world it won't be a batoning from a frightened police officer rioters would have to worry about. Heavy machine-guns with interlocking fields of fire should just about do it....

Martin: Those photos are in no way proof that the chewed-hun was rioting. You are correct. We, however, are on an internet forum and I am of the opinion that people can and will judge him from the pictures and subsequent interviews. Rightly or wrongly I dinnae care.

Now, three in a row anybody? x
Thank you. You talk sense.
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You seem to be repeating yourself a lot Martin... running out of things to say?

Yawn... you're boring, you've lost, get over it.
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You seem to be repeating yourself a lot Martin... running out of things to say?

Yawn... you're boring, you've lost, get over it.
I am having to repeat myself because you lot simply refuse to answer the questions. So I will put those questions again and try and be big enough to answer them please ?

Do you accept that a man is innocent until proven guilty ?

Do you accept that if you were sent to jail you would demand that they had proof of your guilt ?

Do you accept that the photographic evidence does not prove that he was rioting ?

Please answer those questions and I won't have to repeat myself.

Also please do ask your teacher - maybe you will listen to them when they tell you you are completely wrong.

I will say this you gave me a big laugh last night telling me I as out of my depth. I liked that .
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I am having to repeat myself because you lot simply refuse to answer the questions. So I will put those questions again and try and be big enough to answer them please ?

Do you accept that a man is innocent until proven guilty ?

Do you accept that if you were sent to jail you would demand that they had proof of your guilt ?

Do you accept that the photographic evidence does not prove that he was rioting ?

Please answer those questions and I won't have to repeat myself.

Also please do ask your teacher - maybe you will listen to them when they tell you you are completely wrong.

I will say this you gave me a big laugh last night telling me I as out of my depth. I liked that .
You gave me a big laugh last night by flailing around out of your depth. I liked that

1. Innocent 'til proven guilty of course, but I think he is as good as proven guilty already given the evidence supported.

2. Of course.

3. Read the article in the record. They have seen many videos of his involvement as a "central figure" in the hooliganism.

^That's another point you glossed over before.
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Old 18-05-2008, 02:02 PM   #128
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1. Innocent 'til proven guilty of course, but I think he is as good as proven guilty already given the evidence supported.

2. Of course.

3. Read the article in the record. They have seen many videos of his involvement as a "central figure" in the hooliganism.

^That's another point you glossed over before.
I am not even going to get annoyed. You are so thick you are to be pitied. I asked you last night if you believed that the Record was a fair and balanced newspaper which always reported accurately. Please answer that

Have you ever slagged off the Record as being full of shite ?

Do you think that a court would convict someone because of something in the Daily Record ?

Do you actually think that those words appearing on a page in the record are proof that he was rioting ?


PLEASE ask your teacher and then come back to me.
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Jesus christ guys, Can we drop this and get behind the team. The team needs us more than ever to support them right now. FFS! come on lads, Mon the hoops!
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Jesus christ guys, Can we drop this and get behind the team. The team needs us more than ever to support them right now. FFS! come on lads, Mon the hoops!
I am trying to be reasonable here bud.

No one in this thread has provided proof that this guy was rioting. You are smart enough to know that.
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I am not even going to get annoyed. You are so thick you are to be pitied. I asked you last night if you believed that the Record was a fair and balanced newspaper which always reported accurately. Please answer that

Have you ever slagged off the Record as being full of shite ?

Do you think that a court would convict someone because of something in the Daily Record ?

Do you actually think that those words appearing on a page in the record are proof that he was rioting ?


PLEASE ask your teacher and then come back to me.
I don't believe it always reports accurately but I think there's a difference between reporting inaccurately and simply lying.

I haven't ever made a thread about it, but yes I have thought that many football stories were "full of shite," I'll admit.

Maybe I'm just being naiive, but I do believe what it says, simply because they've watched the videos.

Celtic_At_H3art, I can only speak for myself but I'm sure we'll both be right behind the team come Thursday and I don't have any ill-feelings towards Martin.
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Ok Martin, IF Mr fuckin innocent was not wanting to be caught up in any violence or trouble, then why oh why was he still dragging his knuckles round Manchester City centre at MIDNIGHT??

Surely someone released on licence would have the wherewithal to get the hell out of dodge with another jail term looming if he's caught?? No?
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I don't believe it always reports accurately but I think there's a difference between reporting inaccurately and simply lying.

I haven't ever made a thread about it, but yes I have thought that many football stories were "full of shite," I'll admit.
Tabloid papers lie all the time. And you agree that the Record is often 'full of shite'.

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Yes you are being naive. We're getting somewhere ! I think we have all watched the videos and so far no one in this thread has provided proof that he was rioting.

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BTW if proof is found against this guy I will want him banged up too. But there it is a fundamental idea in our system of justice that proof is required to find someone guilty. The minute we deviate from that then we are all fucked.

Ask your teacher and let me know.
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Ok Martin, just calm down.
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I am trying to be reasonable here bud.

No one in this thread has provided proof that this guy was rioting. You are smart enough to know that.
Yes and if you read earlier i agree with you. I know from first hand experience what ploice can be like beleive you me. But can't you guys just agree to disagree? I agree with you here, I don't beleive what the press print. How many time shave they got it wrong? Too many for my book. But all we need right now is peace to break out. :holygoalie:
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