Robson: Good chance McGeady will leave, Celtic fans must miss Strachan

[gunt]

Originally Posted by rossbhoy86

u obviously know fuk all about football mate , Robson is a top class player , a player we could do with right now . if he stayed we could be up there 4 the league . aye he was a big star he was best player at celtic fc one of the biggest teams in the world , maybe ur the 1 that should jog on

Have to say I agree that anyone who cannot see what a brilliant player Robson is doesnt have a clue. He has so many assets. JUst because he has a slghtly rough and ready style seems to blind some people. Apparently he has been asolutely amazing for Boro and has scored loads and is already considered their best player. People often argue that championship is a higher level than the SPL. Well why sell a player who is really lighting up that league. I think he is the sort of late developer who will be excellent for a couple more seasons. I think players with all his assetts and sheer character are seriously rare at the affordable end of the market.

[doctor venglos]

Originally Posted by Markybhoy99

No he doesn't. He deserves our support. If he gets it wrong again in the first half of next season then he'll have to go. Simple.

That's my view anyway.

Why do you want to give Mowbray another season when we are trailing them TEN points and they have a game in hand, and the Huns have the league all sewn up by the beginning of March. That does not compute.

Do you want to risk Mowbray handing the Huns 3IAR too ? What evidence do you base this sychophantic adulation of Mowbray on ?

[jiko]

When Mowbray took the job on I wanted him to do really well , obviously first and foremost to bring success to the club , and then to do that extra bit more to get it up all the hun media snipers , but now I find myself wanting him to get success for all the people who are keeping faith in him , and then to get that extra bit of success to get it up some of our own fans , who I feel will not be deserving of joining in any celebrations should that time come..

[The Hand]

Originally Posted by Barry Robson

"I think, if we're being honest, the Celtic fans will be missing him too now"

Aw, too good!

Middlesbrough were in the Premier League last season. Since Gordon took over how many games have they won? What's that Barry - six?

Yeah, that's right, six fuckin games. Out of twenty-five.

So you'd think you'd have more than enough to concentrate on without giving interviews to the Scottish gutter press about Celtic.

[Frank_the_bhoy]

Originally Posted by The Hand

Aw, too good!

Middlesbrough were in the Premier League last season. Since Gordon took over how many games have they won? What's that Barry - six?

Yeah, that's right, six fuckin games. Out of twenty-five.

So you'd think you'd have more than enough to concentrate on without giving interviews to the Scottish gutter press about Celtic.

Hmmm a three in a row manager or an idiot who has got us 13pts behind the huns Look at yourself ffs.

I have never seen parkhead as such an unenjoyable place to go in my lifeand that's thanks to the clown of a manager we have just now that's what robson meant, DAMN RIGHT I MISS HIM

[Frank_the_bhoy]

Originally Posted by jiko

When Mowbray took the job on I wanted him to do really well , obviously first and foremost to bring success to the club , and then to do that extra bit more to get it up all the hun media snipers , but now I find myself wanting him to get success for all the people who are keeping faith in him , and then to get that extra bit of success to get it up some of our own fans , who I feel will not be deserving of joining in any celebrations should that time come..

Ok so should we be allowed to lambast our own fans when he loses the league for us next season?

Because If it wasn't for the ones who somehow see a reason for him to stay on then we would get rid of him in the summer and get a decent scottish manager in who can get us back to the way we want celtic to play, WINNING FOOTBALL MATCHES.

[The Hand]

Originally Posted by Frank_the_bhoy

Hmmm a three in a row manager or an idiot who has got us 13pts behind the huns Look at yourself ffs.

Well howsabout you look at yourself, and answer the point I actually made.

Middlesbrough were a Premier League team, who not so long ago had been in a UEFA final. After relegation, they could have been expected to be in a prime position to gain promotion the following year.

Southgate won seven games out of fifteen and got the sack. To be replaced by GS, who proceeded to win six games out of twenty-five! Reckon the Middlesbrough board think they made the right decision?

Gordon brought great success to us. It was wonderful - I was delighted. And I felt vindicated, because I supported him vocally from the very start, when many others - like you are just now - were calling for the manager's head.

But the problems had already set in during his final year here. We LOST the league last year, in case that's been forgotten. And we also lost our creative lynchpin, Nakamura. So Tony Mowbray's mandate was to rebuild, and that's what he's been doing. As of the January window, he has got a proper group of his own players in, so it's from then that I'm judging him.

[Razorbhoy]

Originally Posted by gunt

Have to say I agree that anyone who cannot see what a brilliant player Robson is doesnt have a clue. He has so many assets. JUst because he has a slghtly rough and ready style seems to blind some people. Apparently he has been asolutely amazing for Boro and has scored loads and is already considered their best player. People often argue that championship is a higher level than the SPL. Well why sell a player who is really lighting up that league. I think he is the sort of late developer who will be excellent for a couple more seasons. I think players with all his assetts and sheer character are seriously rare at the affordable end of the market.

Dont have a clue? Bet your one of the ones who crying for WGS to leave and first on TMs back.Watch some Boro games and you will see how good he is,diving and giving away stupid fouls,lets see at the end of the season what difference Robson makes.I already been warned by mod so am being polite !

[Markybhoy99]

Originally Posted by doctor venglos

Why do you want to give Mowbray another season when we are trailing them TEN points and they have a game in hand, and the Huns have the league all sewn up by the beginning of March. That does not compute.

Do you want to risk Mowbray handing the Huns 3IAR too ? What evidence do you base this sychophantic adulation of Mowbray on ?

Sycophancy has f all to do with it. Tony Mowbray has showed enough in his time as a football manager to make me believe he knows what he's doing and he knows how to set a team up. Yes, this season has been a cock up and Tony has to take his share of the blame for it but I will not write the guy off as a muppet just because things haven't gone well this season. The man deserves a second chance and he will get a second chance from me. Are you one of these numpties who lives by the maxim that if a manager doesn't win the league in his first season in charge then he automatically has to be sacked? Maybe you're not but that's how you're coming across. And at a couple of points this season you've came out with stuff like 'I'm starting to believe again' so you obviously saw some things to feel positive about at some point. To be honest mate you come across as a guy who seems to get high after a couple of good results then you want the manager's baws booted after a couple of bad results. Try looking at the bigger picture and try to be a bit more patient eh. You've watched enough football in your time to not be a knee-jerk reactionist so stop being one.

[obonfanti1888]

Originally Posted by Markybhoy99

Sycophancy has f all to do with it. Tony Mowbray has showed enough in his time as a football manager to make me believe he knows what he's doing and he knows how to set a team up. Yes, this season has been a cock up and Tony has to take his share of the blame for it but I will not write the guy off as a muppet just because things haven't gone well this season. The man deserves a second chance and he will get a second chance from me. Are you one of these numpties who lives by the maxim that if a manager doesn't win the league in his first season in charge then he automatically has to be sacked? Maybe you're not but that's how you're coming across. And at a couple of points this season you've came out with stuff like 'I'm starting to believe again' so you obviously saw some things to feel positive about at some point. To be honest mate you come across as a guy who seems to get high after a couple of good results then you want the manager's baws booted after a couple of bad results. Try looking at the bigger picture and try to be a bit more patient eh. You've watched enough football in your time to not be a knee-jerk reactionist so stop being one.

i agree!

[jiko]

Ok so should we be allowed to lambast our own fans when he loses the league for us next season?

With an attitude like that you'd be as well to stay away from all things Celtic untill the Mowbray era is over because it's clear with you and a few others that no matter what TM does now , he's already past the point of no return , and even if he does bring us success then there's no way you can enjoy it like the rest of us because you'd have to swallow a really bitter pill in the process.. Find something else to do , Go and watch Middlesboro for now perhaps , and then when your content with a new manager being in charge of Celtic , come back , give him a chance but still judge him against the 3 in a row and 2X last 16 CL that Strachan achieved (in his first 3 seasons) , and see if he measures up to those stats in his first season , as you have done with Mowbray..

One of the problems , which I think is actually a major problem is fans who are more concerned about the huns lording it , yet they still want to trot out that it's the worst huns team ever , haven't bought a player in 18 months etc..
There's a good chance the huns will end this season with the highest points total that an SPL club has had since Celtic in the 2004/2005 season (91 points) , and with 10 games to go they can afford to lose two games while winning the rest , to equal that mark..
I think points total is a fair way to judge a team over a season because that way it's not simply about being a bawhair better than the huns (which is how I think we've measured success) ever since the O'Neil era finished..

From 38 games we should be getting 90 points because that's what I'd class as winning football and would be close to reaching a high level consistently..
If you achieve 90 points and lose the league then it's tough , but means the competition was high.. Our points totals from the previous 4 seasons were 91,84,89,82 winning 3 league titles.. Like the next person , Im happy if we win the league by goal difference and lose 15 games in the process but that wouldn't be a fair way to judge if the club , manager and players are reaching the standards they should be.. The level of opposition is a major factor in deciding where the trophies go..

If we somehow go unbeaten untill the end of the season , with 9 games to go , were we to win 8 and draw 1 then we'd equal last seasons points total and Im not saying that would be any achievement , it's just a fact..
At the moment I think we are 5 points worse off than this time last year , and we were pretty much neck and neck with the huns at that time , so that means the huns are 5-8 points better now than they were then , certainly a contributing factor in taking this years title out of our grasp.
If the huns can keep the same group of players together then it's probably going to take more points to win the league next season..

This season is as good as a write off with consolation prizes all that's left to play for so I've already got one eye on next season and believe it can't come quick enough..
I want to see us start reaching the standards we should be doing and that will result in 90 point totals for an SPL season.. Strachan managed it once in 4 tries and I believe Mowbray can do it..
Success in Europe is something that will just have to wait untill we get domestic success first..

[Frank_the_bhoy]

Originally Posted by The Hand

Well howsabout you look at yourself, and answer the point I actually made.

Middlesbrough were a Premier League team, who not so long ago had been in a UEFA final. After relegation, they could have been expected to be in a prime position to gain promotion the following year.

Southgate won seven games out of fifteen and got the sack. To be replaced by GS, who proceeded to win six games out of twenty-five! Reckon the Middlesbrough board think they made the right decision?

Gordon brought great success to us. It was wonderful - I was delighted. And I felt vindicated, because I supported him vocally from the very start, when many others - like you are just now - were calling for the manager's head.

But the problems had already set in during his final year here. We LOST the league last year, in case that's been forgotten. And we also lost our creative lynchpin, Nakamura. So Tony Mowbray's mandate was to rebuild, and that's what he's been doing. As of the January window, he has got a proper group of his own players in, so it's from then that I'm judging him.

So you are giving WGS less than half a season before you judge him but mowbray gets until the end of the season? Logic?

Forgot there is none.

[Frank_the_bhoy]

With an attitude like that you'd be as well to stay away from all things Celtic untill the Mowbray era is over because it's clear with you and a few others that no matter what TM does now , he's already past the point of no return , and even if he does bring us success then there's no way you can enjoy it like the rest of us because you'd have to swallow a really bitter pill in the process.. Find something else to do , Go and watch Middlesboro for now perhaps , and then when your content with a new manager being in charge of Celtic , come back , give him a chance but still judge him against the 3 in a row and 2X last 16 CL that Strachan achieved (in his first 3 seasons) , and see if he measures up to those stats in his first season , as you have done with Mowbray..

Ok so You are allowed to tell me not to celebrate if mowbray wins the league next season but I am Not allowed to say how much of an eejit you have been if he dosen't?

Fact is If we win the league next season then I will gladly give mowbray my backing, I gave him my backing until halfway through this season (just before the jan window) I realised he is clueless, the manager has to earn the backing of supporters and the way to do this is to At least give us some positives to show they can do a job. He hasn't given us ANY positives.


I could turn round what you said and tell you that you I think you are only sticking by mowbray because you have already gave him your backing and you don't want to Eat humble pie and admit that YOU Were wrong, that is why I think that no matter what happens from now on you will continue with the blind faith you are showing just now That is what it is now Blind faith.

[Frank_the_bhoy]

And jiko don't you dare think that you have the right to sit and tell me that I should stay away from Celtic, just because I have an opinion.

Your a disgrace

[jiko]

Originally Posted by Frank_the_bhoy

And jiko don't you dare think that you have the right to sit and tell me that I should stay away from Celtic, just because I have an opinion.

Your a disgrace

I'll tell you how it is when I see fit to , and I'll look forward even more to the day when TM brings us a trophy , because it will be a GIRFUY to you and your like..