where do we go to improve

[jhimbhoab]

it now appears that in the current climate we cant hope to compete with clubs in the english first division, never mind the premiership. for sure there is the odd gem to be found in lower divisions but in order to compete at the champions league level the type of player we need aint gonna fing the spl an attractive proposition, which means we are gonna stay at a level that simply isnt good enough to compete against the best. i forsee a future for celtic where probably more than half of the first team will have come through the ranks at lennoxtown.

[Hendo*]

we need to go european, a bit like shaktar, non-high profile forigen players, along the same lines as hinkel, and when we first got petrov, lubo, cadete, all didnt cost much and walked the spl, and gave a good go at europe

[HAGIESBAR]

I was going to to a topic on this. I agree 100% mate.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by jhimbhoab

i forsee a future for celtic where probably more than half of the first team will have come through the ranks at lennoxtown.

So does the club hence the entire restructure of the coaching from ground level and the investment not only in Lennoxtown but also in foreign scouting to net the best youth talents across the globe.

As it stands we are still capable of 3 or 4 high earners, decent quality bought from the SPL, the Championship, abroad and the likes and the rest should be supplemented by the club produced talent.

[-OC-]

Originally Posted by Hammer

So does the club hence the entire restructure of the coaching from ground level and the investment not only in Lennoxtown but also in foreign scouting to net the best youth talents across the globe.

As it stands we are still capable of 3 or 4 high earners, decent quality bought from the SPL, the Championship, abroad and the likes and the rest should be supplemented by the club produced talent.

Haven't noticed in last few years that we produced some quality young players. We usually bring them from other SPL sides.

[jhimbhoab]

i can see a situation whereby the high standards that we enjoyed since mon's tenure, are about to nosedive back to a standard we suffered through lack of true investment. we will continue to be one of two clubs who will win the spl but when asked to step up a gear we havent got the experience or quality. which will in turn effect punters through the turnstyles and the superstore till will be affected and its a spiral thats hard to get out of......and mon proved the only way to break it is with some hard cash. right now we can apply a band aid.....five years from now we may need a bandage to fix the problem.

[DanniGhirl]

Originally Posted by jhimbhoab

it now appears that in the current climate we cant hope to compete with clubs in the english first division, never mind the premiership. for sure there is the odd gem to be found in lower divisions but in order to compete at the champions league level the type of player we need aint gonna fing the spl an attractive proposition, which means we are gonna stay at a level that simply isnt good enough to compete against the best. i forsee a future for celtic where probably more than half of the first team will have come through the ranks at lennoxtown.

If done properly that's the way it should be

[JC147]

The youth is definitely the future for us. If it gets done properly the talent we could produce would be limitless - look at the quality barcelona have produced through their youth ranks. I know thats a perfect example in the sense and we might not be able to produce the likes of Messi, Puyol etc but i believe the time will come when world class talent will come through at Lennoxtown.
The youth is more long term so if we want to improve in the close future ie this summer i agree we will have to go with the european approach that Shaktar have used.

[cfcturbo]

go to aberdeen and get charlie mulgrew back

[celtic-bhoy]

do what we are doing recruiting the best young european talent

[dazzamac]

should go back to doin wot we done at our best time...goto likes of scandanavia...pull players out that no-ones heard of, n get them goin, youth or a bit older, so many examples from the past that this worked, rather than spend big £££ (for a team in the spl) on players that are more interested in money than playin for a team of celtic's stature!

[jaseybhoy]

Originally Posted by hendo_bhoy

we need to go european, a bit like shaktar, non-high profile forigen players, along the same lines as hinkel, and when we first got petrov, lubo, cadete, all didnt cost much and walked the spl, and gave a good go at europe

Totally agree with this.

[woodlandsbhoy86]

Originally Posted by JC147

The youth is more long term so if we want to improve in the close future ie this summer i agree we will have to go with the european approach that Shaktar have used.

shaktar have their won sugar daddy, all he did was buy all the brazilians that werent quite good enough to play the biggest teams in europe!!

how, exactly do u proppose we follow that example?

we dont have the funds, and we all know that you cant sign unknowns from brazil here because of the red tape, something which clubs in holland portugal and ukraine dont have to deal with to the same extent

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Orthodox Celt

Haven't noticed in last few years that we produced some quality young players. We usually bring them from other SPL sides.

McManus, O'Dea, Maloney, McGeady, Sheridan, Caddis all first team players from our academy.

Mulgrew, Wallace, Miller, Beattie, Marshall all products of our academy now making a living in the Championship or SPL.

[irishbhoyabroad]

Originally Posted by dazzamac

should go back to doin wot we done at our best time...goto likes of scandanavia...pull players out that no-ones heard of, n get them goin, youth or a bit older, so many examples from the past that this worked, rather than spend big £££ (for a team in the spl) on players that are more interested in money than playin for a team of celtic's stature!

Have been saying this for a while now, up here in Scandinavia there are some really talented players!

Thing is though, if Celtic want to get the best, they need to come in early, as there are many clubs in Southern Europe and Central Europe who take players from here at a really young age!

Ok, the norm for Celtic is towards that of Eastern Europe, thats great too, as some gems out there, but don't rule out other areas also!

Celtic can compete and get the best young players! We just need to get in with specific dedicated scouts to smaller regions rather than an overall region. The closer one goes, i.e. localisation of scouting techniques, is more likely to produce future gems!

Consequence of this is further investment within scouting systems on a more local scale in certain regions!

Up here, some of the fantastic youth that have been taken are playing in Greece, Holland and Spain. One or two have gone to Italy!

Celtic needs to market itself properly to raise its stature of the club, to the level it once was seriously respected throughout the world! Whether players were fans of the club or not, many had respect for the club! We need that again!!