Wait, how do these 'IRA' songs damage our club?

[DustyMcCeltic]

Im 100% with you on this one Fionn

[Feed the bear]

Originally Posted by Fionn MacCool

The only people that care about them are and call us an 'IRA club' are Huns and the English, and they have done and will always do that regardless of what we do.

Who are we going to 'scare off' from signing? Lafferty? Healy? Barry Ferguson? Chelsea are pretty well known for having scumbag thug fans and look who they've signed.


"If I had gone to a game where a small minority were to engage in IRA chants, would that have been advantageous to Celtic?" - Gregory Campbell

Advantageous? In what capacity would having this Loyalist fucker in our stadium ever be advantageous?

Yes Celtic Football Club/PLC are a sports organisation and should have absolutely nothing to do with politics, but that doesn't mean our fans can't. It's okay to have Smash Fascism banners but it's not okay to sing anti-Loyalist songs? What gives? We admire our friends at St Pauli for standing up against the right-wing neo Nazis that surround them in Hamburg, but demonise our own supporters for being a vocal minority?

The connection CFC has with St Pauli is dubious at best but as for demonising our own support, what exactly do you expect when you have people singing, in public and more often than not on live TV, glorifying terrorist outrages and the deliberate killing of British citizens, who almost always had no political afilliations whatsoever concerning Ireland and could hardly be classed as enemies of an Irish republican movement. You state quite rightly that CFC is a sports organisation, so let's leave it at that and not introduce politics into the mix when it's patently obvious that all that will come of it, is needless media and UEFA scrutiny and an almost certainty of some form of censure being placed on us. We find it hard enough to do well in Europe so would you then still advocate singing rebel songs at CP if we get to the point where we are threatened with CL points being deducted, or G*d forbid, playing behind closed doors? I've said it on here many, many times but some people just don't seem to get it. By singing sectarian and rebel songs all you are doing is giving the morons who follow RFC (and their media cohorts) far more ammunition to use against us. It's time to ban the people who sing rebel songs at CP!


I do not want Celtic to be a political vehicle, I don't expect them to be announcing links with RSF or any of those cunts, but that doesn't mean our fans cannot share their own beliefs and celebrate them. And what's the deal with these deluded folk saying Celtic fans have nothing to do with Republicanism or any of that? Stop kidding yourself. Go to ANY Irish Rebel gig, or to any of the Celtic pubs on a matchday where they will be blasting Rebel music and the place will be swamped in Hoops shirts.

As for the last highlighted section, sorry to shake you out of your delusion but yes it does mean you cannot go to CP and celebrate your beliefs, especially if they are not connected to CFC and are illegal, or offensive to the majority. Our club has nothing to do with the murderers and drug runners who called themselves freedom fighters while slaughtering women and kids and I for one hate the fact that some still try to make some connection between us. We were founded by a pious individual with the vision that we could make a difference to the impoverished people in the east end of Glasgow. No criteria were put on whether those poor were Catholic, Protestant or any other faith. No connection was made with an Irish republican movement either. That came through a fan base who were predominantly irish catholic and who connected to the republican movement. The fact that some people seem to think we have a deep connection with the IRA is repugnant to me and many others.

[RafaelScheidt]

Originally Posted by Feed the bear

As for the last highlighted section, sorry to shake you out of your delusion but yes it does mean you cannot go to CP and celebrate your beliefs, especially if they are not connected to CFC and are illegal, or offensive to the majority. Our club has nothing to do with the murderers and drug runners who called themselves freedom fighters while slaughtering women and kids and I for one hate the fact that some still try to make some connection between us. We were founded by a pious individual with the vision that we could make a difference to the impoverished people in the east end of Glasgow. No criteria were put on whether those poor were Catholic, Protestant or any other faith. No connection was made with an Irish republican movement either. That came through a fan base who were predominantly irish catholic and who connected to the republican movement. The fact that some people seem to think we have a deep connection with the IRA is repugnant to me and many others.

great post, 100% agree

[Gercelt]

Originally Posted by Fionn MacCool

The only people that care about them are and call us an 'IRA club' are Huns and the English, and they have done and will always do that regardless of what we do.

Who are we going to 'scare off' from signing? Lafferty? Healy? Barry Ferguson? Chelsea are pretty well known for having scumbag thug fans and look who they've signed.


"If I had gone to a game where a small minority were to engage in IRA chants, would that have been advantageous to Celtic?" - Gregory Campbell

Advantageous? In what capacity would having this Loyalist fucker in our stadium ever be advantageous?

Yes Celtic Football Club/PLC are a sports organisation and should have absolutely nothing to do with politics, but that doesn't mean our fans can't. It's okay to have Smash Fascism banners but it's not okay to sing anti-Loyalist songs? What gives? We admire our friends at St Pauli for standing up against the right-wing neo Nazis that surround them in Hamburg, but demonise our own supporters for being a vocal minority?

I do not want Celtic to be a political vehicle, I don't expect them to be announcing links with RSF or any of those cunts, but that doesn't mean our fans cannot share their own beliefs and celebrate them. And what's the deal with these deluded folk saying Celtic fans have nothing to do with Republicanism or any of that? Stop kidding yourself. Go to ANY Irish Rebel gig, or to any of the Celtic pubs on a matchday where they will be blasting Rebel music and the place will be swamped in Hoops shirts.

If you have political leanings towards the IRA and anything similar...I have no problem with that at all...I even agree with most of it
But it does not belong in a football ground...it is a "sporting arena"
As some have said it can only damage our club having songs sung that glorify the IRA
In your own time do as you please but at CP...please leave it out!

[Hanlo]

the IRA songs are now longer relevant and iam not sure they ever where! yes we all sang them inthe 70s& 80s when the the troubles where rife and it was a way of showing support but it is time to move on !

[Gercelt]

Originally Posted by Feed the bear

As for the last highlighted section, sorry to shake you out of your delusion but yes it does mean you cannot go to CP and celebrate your beliefs, especially if they are not connected to CFC and are illegal, or offensive to the majority. Our club has nothing to do with the murderers and drug runners who called themselves freedom fighters while slaughtering women and kids and I for one hate the fact that some still try to make some connection between us. We were founded by a pious individual with the vision that we could make a difference to the impoverished people in the east end of Glasgow. No criteria were put on whether those poor were Catholic, Protestant or any other faith. No connection was made with an Irish republican movement either. That came through a fan base who were predominantly irish catholic and who connected to the republican movement. The fact that some people seem to think we have a deep connection with the IRA is repugnant to me and many others.

Agree 100% mate...perfectly said

[Martin]

Let's ditch all the IRA crap and move on. If people in NI are moving on why can't a section of our support ?

[Tony Angelino]

Originally Posted by Fionn MacCool

The only people that care about them are and call us an 'IRA club' are Huns and the English, and they have done and will always do that regardless of what we do.

Who are we going to 'scare off' from signing? Lafferty? Healy? Barry Ferguson? Chelsea are pretty well known for having scumbag thug fans and look who they've signed.

It is quite naive of you to think that only Huns are offended by IRA chants. If our club (and people see our fans as our club) were seen as heavily supporting & promoting a terrorist organisation then a lot of people (sensible people) would be "scared off" - players, supporters, sponsors etc.

As the club social mission statement reads we have no political agenda (and should not have IMO.)

Originally Posted by Feed the bear

As for the last highlighted section, sorry to shake you out of your delusion but yes it does mean you cannot go to CP and celebrate your beliefs, especially if they are not connected to CFC and are illegal, or offensive to the majority. Our club has nothing to do with the murderers and drug runners who called themselves freedom fighters while slaughtering women and kids and I for one hate the fact that some still try to make some connection between us. We were founded by a pious individual with the vision that we could make a difference to the impoverished people in the east end of Glasgow. No criteria were put on whether those poor were Catholic, Protestant or any other faith. No connection was made with an Irish republican movement either. That came through a fan base who were predominantly irish catholic and who connected to the republican movement. The fact that some people seem to think we have a deep connection with the IRA is repugnant to me and many others.

Well said mate.

[francis1967]

lets ask ourselves this simple question. why do we support celtic? I do because my dad did and he did because his dad did and he did because of what celtic represented- a symbol of hope amid oppression. suppose the southern us blacks had started a us football team in th 20s, and they Became a big success winning the biggest us football tournament possible, and they sang the songs their fathers sang in the cotton fields and they were great songs. should they stop? for anyone? the fact is, the sensible britts are embarrased by their own history, just as the sensible americans are embarrased by their treatment of the blacks.what should happen, and tony blair nearly did it, is that a national apology to the irish should be announced and the songs of their people be welcomed and celebrated in recognition of their remorse.otherwise why have holocaust museums?it will happen, but not if we bend the knee.

[Martin]

Originally Posted by francis1967

lets ask ourselves this simple question. why do we support celtic? I do because my dad did and he did because his dad did and he did because of what celtic represented- a symbol of hope amid oppression. suppose the southern us blacks had started a us football team in th 20s, and they Became a big success winning the biggest us football tournament possible, and they sang the songs their fathers sang in the cotton fields and they were great songs. should they stop? for anyone? the fact is, the sensible britts are embarrased by their own history, just as the sensible americans are embarrased by their treatment of the blacks.what should happen, and tony blair nearly did it, is that a national apology to the irish should be announced and the songs of their people be welcomed and celebrated in recognition of their remorse.otherwise why have holocaust museums?it will happen, but not if we bend the knee.

Time moves on mate.

[KK-Bhoy]

Why would anyone want to be associated with a terrorist group?

[DustyMcCeltic]

Originally Posted by KK-Bhoy

Why would anyone want to be associated with a terrorist group?

Go back to reading The Sun and watching Channel 5 news mate

[Tamster]

Why don't we invite Gerry Adams and Martin McGuiness to do keepy uppies at half time

[KK-Bhoy]

Anyone who denies that the IRA are a terrorist group clearly has problems with the truth.

[francis1967]

it does, and the us will soon have a black president . this would not have happened if the blacks had given up their fight for equality. the day will come when we will have a catholic prime minister and no royal family. but not if we give up recognising our heritage.