This is how I see it.

[CelticNinja]

It's not that big a deal losing to the huns just now. It just hurts the ego a bit. If we had been beaten 4-2 by Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or Hearts this early in the season, I assume we would have been more philosophical about it.

What I can not get over, or ignore, is our pathetic dealings in the transfer market. Not one player came through the door this year that is better than what we already have. Two of them, in McCourt and Crosas, could not even be considered squad players at present. The other two are, but that is all they are. Not saying I don't like Maloney or Samaras, just that they are more of the same and nothing new. Are the board completely lacking in ambition? Is money their one and only and true pursuit? Have they forgotten the oldest business adage in the book - You have to spend money, to make money? I think we were lucky to make the last 16 these past two years. Very lucky indeed. The idea that we could progress further with the same crop of players is simply laughable.

Now lets get this "EPL pricing us out" thing out of the way. Strachan and Lawells pish about not having £20 million to buy a decent player is bollocks. Are you telling me they could only find a better left back than Lee Naylor if they had £20 million to spend? Cause I noticed a whole pile of £3-6 million players moving this year and most of them are better than what we have. Like Mendes. I'd have bitten your hand off to sign him. Far better controlling midfielder than Scott Brown. He will get goals and provide goals. I am FURIOUS with their suggestion they are being priced out of players.

We used to spend £1 million average on a decent player in the early days of the SPL. Then it went up and £3 million players were coming. At the beginning of the Martin O'Neill reign, it was £5-6 million for a decent player and we got a few. Now, if what the board is saying about us being in the best financial position we have ever been in is true, then surely £6-8 million players should be arriving? Even just taking inflation into consideration?

Celtic thought they could put the money in their shareholders pockets when Rangers went out of Europe and it is the biggest mistake they will ever make. I am fucking livid we have not made one decent signing. One. Just fucking one. Is that too much to ask for the richest club in Scotland?

Never mind resting on our Laurels, we've throw them in the bin and forgot about them.

[Gercelt]

100% agree mate...cant add any more than what you have said

Well done

[CelticNinja]

Cheers mate. Glad I'm not the only one pissed aff wae all the bullshit.


We had better invest big in January or we risk letting the rankers creep their way back in. The work should be intensified for that window now.

[traderbhoy]

The big fear I have is that we could be playing catch up with the rankers then we really will see some "Panic buys".We really should not be in this position.Please no more squad buys first team buys only no more excuses.

[patto]

It's for europe we need to heavily invest, this team is more than capable of smashing any team in the SPL imo, still need a solid LB though.

[DustyMcCeltic]

Fair points CN, it is frustrating

[seentheway]

Having sat for another 2 games since the start of the season surrounded by people who are either too scared or too uninthusiastic to bother singing, clapping, contributing or making a decent atmosphere.......im not going back.

Im not going back for the following reasons-

• 470 quid a season is a lot of money
• Its even harder to swallow when theres a total lack of passion from SOME supporters which ends up sweeping through the stadium to ensure ZERO ATMOSPHERE
• WGC/Lawell couldnt find decent signings if they were blootered with them in the face
• He refuses to make a change before 75mins !!!!!
• Scottish football is pish in general now
• The guy next to me moans (more than me) the whole way through every game
• Its becoming a joke even turning up these days

Feel free to hurl abuse at me, call me a roger hunt or whatever else but im not bothered one bit about saying "this is becoming ridiculous and im not paying to entertain it anymore"

I even wrote to the celtic view to ask if they could help to bring back some kind of atmosphere to our stadium.

I never got so much as a reply. Why? Cos they dont have a clue how it could be improved either !!!

[CelticNinja]

"I even wrote to the celtic view to ask if they could help to bring back some kind of atmosphere to our stadium.

I never got so much as a reply. Why? Cos they dont have a clue how it could be improved either !!!"

By dropping great players on us every transfer window and giving us entertainment?

How long can you listen to the one music album over and over, before you want some new tunes? Somehow, even though you love it, the old stuff becomes stale.

[ellboy]

Originally Posted by CelticNinja

It's not that big a deal losing to the huns just now. It just hurts the ego a bit. If we had been beaten 4-2 by Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or Hearts this early in the season, I assume we would have been more philosophical about it.

What I can not get over, or ignore, is our pathetic dealings in the transfer market. Not one player came through the door this year that is better than what we already have. Two of them, in McCourt and Crosas, could not even be considered squad players at present. The other two are, but that is all they are. Not saying I don't like Maloney or Samaras, just that they are more of the same and nothing new. Are the board completely lacking in ambition? Is money their one and only and true pursuit? Have they forgotten the oldest business adage in the book - You have to spend money, to make money? I think we were lucky to make the last 16 these past two years. Very lucky indeed. The idea that we could progress further with the same crop of players is simply laughable.

Now lets get this "EPL pricing us out" thing out of the way. Strachan and Lawells pish about not having £20 million to buy a decent player is bollocks. Are you telling me they could only find a better left back than Lee Naylor if they had £20 million to spend? Cause I noticed a whole pile of £3-6 million players moving this year and most of them are better than what we have. Like Mendes. I'd have bitten your hand off to sign him. Far better controlling midfielder than Scott Brown. He will get goals and provide goals. I am FURIOUS with their suggestion they are being priced out of players.

We used to spend £1 million average on a decent player in the early days of the SPL. Then it went up and £3 million players were coming. At the beginning of the Martin O'Neill reign, it was £5-6 million for a decent player and we got a few. Now, if what the board is saying about us being in the best financial position we have ever been in is true, then surely £6-8 million players should be arriving? Even just taking inflation into consideration?

Celtic thought they could put the money in their shareholders pockets when Rangers went out of Europe and it is the biggest mistake they will ever make. I am fucking livid we have not made one decent signing. One. Just fucking one. Is that too much to ask for the richest club in Scotland?

Never mind resting on our Laurels, we've throw them in the bin and forgot about them.

Spot on mate fanstastic post, not many could argue with that but I am sure they will.LOL

100% Agree mate the best thread i have seen in a while and you got every point totally correct. Its is pathetic the way things are going on just now.

And to Seentheway

Celtic for some reason have created signing sections so thats the only ares that are supposed to sing its abit annoying cause you see all these other sections haveing a good sing song and the other areas just sit and stare i usually think to myself why dont we get up and joinin insted of looking open mouthed and a few times me and a few others have joined in with them and people just stare as if to say what the fuck you doing. We even heard Billy McNeil say when he was out at half time against falkirk wheres the jungle ... or was it before kick off ... cant remeber now haha.

Totally Shite

[HenrikBhoy]

I seriously hope for some quality signings in january and it better happen-our sqaud isn't bursting with quality and leaving Robson out especially of an old firm game is the worst decision ever-He is our best player in my opinion and plays with passion so why isn't he starting-how can we hope for new quality signings if he's not playing the quality players we have at the moment?

[CelticNinja]

Imagine Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal not signing one new first team player during the window.

Fans would have them lined up and shot.

[ChampionsElect]

Originally Posted by CelticNinja

Imagine Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal not signing one new first team player during the window.

Fans would have them lined up and shot.

We did - Maloney.

[Messi 10]

Originally Posted by ChampionsElect

We did - Maloney.

he's in the first team through injury.

if the golden boy was fit, and JVOH wasn't suspended, maloney would be on the bench.

[supermike]

Originally Posted by CelticNinja

It's not that big a deal losing to the huns just now. It just hurts the ego a bit. If we had been beaten 4-2 by Aberdeen, Dundee Utd or Hearts this early in the season, I assume we would have been more philosophical about it.

What I can not get over, or ignore, is our pathetic dealings in the transfer market. Not one player came through the door this year that is better than what we already have. Two of them, in McCourt and Crosas, could not even be considered squad players at present. The other two are, but that is all they are. Not saying I don't like Maloney or Samaras, just that they are more of the same and nothing new. Are the board completely lacking in ambition? Is money their one and only and true pursuit? Have they forgotten the oldest business adage in the book - You have to spend money, to make money? I think we were lucky to make the last 16 these past two years. Very lucky indeed. The idea that we could progress further with the same crop of players is simply laughable.

Now lets get this "EPL pricing us out" thing out of the way. Strachan and Lawells pish about not having £20 million to buy a decent player is bollocks. Are you telling me they could only find a better left back than Lee Naylor if they had £20 million to spend? Cause I noticed a whole pile of £3-6 million players moving this year and most of them are better than what we have. Like Mendes. I'd have bitten your hand off to sign him. Far better controlling midfielder than Scott Brown. He will get goals and provide goals. I am FURIOUS with their suggestion they are being priced out of players.

We used to spend £1 million average on a decent player in the early days of the SPL. Then it went up and £3 million players were coming. At the beginning of the Martin O'Neill reign, it was £5-6 million for a decent player and we got a few. Now, if what the board is saying about us being in the best financial position we have ever been in is true, then surely £6-8 million players should be arriving? Even just taking inflation into consideration?

Celtic thought they could put the money in their shareholders pockets when Rangers went out of Europe and it is the biggest mistake they will ever make. I am fucking livid we have not made one decent signing. One. Just fucking one. Is that too much to ask for the richest club in Scotland?

Never mind resting on our Laurels, we've throw them in the bin and forgot about them.

1) Totally disagree with you on Maloney and Samaras. I think we have gotten 2 top top players for a tuppence. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

2) "You have to spend money to make money" is - I'm afraid - complete rubbish. Let me point to the 90's when we almost went under as an example. Even after Martin O'Neill it's only now that we've come to the situation of being described as in good financial shape. Strachan and Lawwel have done tremendous in cutting our wages which are now small compared to under O'Neill.

3) The third point I've highlighted is again completely wide of the mark. The quote was we could only improve on VENEGOOR! with a £20 million player. Which in fairness isn't too far from the truth. Liverpool spent £20 million on Robbie Keane ffs. In terms of left backs - look at Sunderland! They've just spent £4.5 million on George fucking McCartney. Unproven at any level and Celtic fans seem to think we can get some kind of CL experienced LB for less than a million! Portsmouth had to sign Traore from Arsenal who got ripped apart when he appeared in the bloody Carling Cup. Why you've thrown Mendes in I have no idea. He's a good midfielder fair enough but he's played 2 games for Rangers in the SPL. Canw e keep a hold of reality please?

4) "Being in the best financial situation for years" is absolutely true why you are doubting this I'm not sure - inflation has no bearing. It's not HOW MUCH we spend compared to past years. It's how much we can SUSTAINABLY SPEND.

5) One decent signing? Again we can agree to disagree. Maloney & Samaras are top class first teamers. Loovens arguably an improvement on Mick. Crosas an immense prospect and McCourt an unknown quantity at the moment.

6) Sure Rangers have spent a lot more than us but believe me they won't be doing that next year. This is last chance saloon for them and I believe we can take them again this year despite their outrageous spending.