LACK OF INVESTMENT REASONING - TalkCeltic

Daver · 02-09-2008, 09:40 AM

Bhoys and Ghirls,

The transfer window shuts once again, and i think it's fair to say the majority of us are a bit disgruntled at what we view as an unambitious set of acquisitions.

What i want to poll is the reasons WHY this is the case:

1 - Value for money unattainable, board quite rightly looked for, and failed to find, players for the right amount of money.

2 - Board satisfied with the squad as it is, and not deeming it prudent to bring in many more new faces.

3 - Board wanting, above else, to turn the club into a profit making venture by this time next year.

4 - Board anxious that Strachan's past decision making has been - to use a technical term - "pish" and didn't want to back him.

5 - My one - Board envisaging Strachan leaving at or by the end of the season irrespective, and not wanting money spent on players a new manager may not see as fitting in.

I'm fully expecting number "1" to finish ahead...but am just interested to see the variations on opinion.

Many thanks,

Daver.

Reno. · 02-09-2008, 09:46 AM

1 would be feasible if it wasn't for all the bollocks talk over a LB. They honestly couldn't find one, in all of Europe/World in the space of months between June - August? Though I'm prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt here and say that politics (in all forms) has played a huge part in the failure of signings.

On a side note, I can't help but feel now there's a sinister 'disease' (for lack of a better word) coming from down south (and elsewhere but they're the main culprits at the moment), and that disease is the smell of money. Players are turning us down, guarunteed European football, playing in front of 60,000 fans and the honour of wearing the beloved hoops for more 000's on their wage.

I'll settle on #3. They'll make the books look pretty then (hopefully!) go mental and bring in some actual good players who want to play for the club and not a wage packet.

mikeyp · 02-09-2008, 09:55 AM

I do believe wgs will walk at the end of the season irrespective of how the season goes, he seems to think 3 or 4years is enough at one club.Anyone else thinking this way?

mikeyp · 02-09-2008, 09:58 AM

On a side note, I can't help but feel now there's a sinister 'disease' (for lack of a better word) coming from down south (and elsewhere but they're the main culprits at the moment), and that disease is the smell of money. Players are turning us down, guarunteed European football, playing in front of 60,000 fans and the honour of wearing the beloved hoops for more 000's on their wage.

That is a very good point, i am sure if we could have got near Liverpools offer to Keane he would have came to Celtic.

Daver · 02-09-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyp

I do believe wgs will walk at the end of the season irrespective of how the season goes, he seems to think 3 or 4years is enough at one club.Anyone else thinking this way?

For sure. As i said, i think that's a major reason why a lot of money is being kept back...

chanbhoy67 · 02-09-2008, 10:22 AM

I think they couldnt find anyone that wasnt priced out of the market. Having said that, some of the points on money getting held back for a new manager are very interesting!

**Hammer** · 02-09-2008, 10:26 AM

The reason is the deals they attempted to pull off ultimately faltered. Strachan said as much in his press conference prior to Sundays game.

Daver · 02-09-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

The reason is the deals they attempted to pull off ultimately faltered. Strachan said as much in his press conference prior to Sundays game.

"Ultimately faltered" is not conclusive though...and there is more money coming in from CL alone than was being talked about for Tamas etc...by some margin, in truth.

**Hammer** · 02-09-2008, 10:55 AM

They clearly went for a player(s) and either the money their club wanted was too much or the wages the guy was wanting were too much. i.e. the deals ultimately faltered.

kennydal · 02-09-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

The reason is the deals they attempted to pull off ultimately faltered. Strachan said as much in his press conference prior to Sundays game.

Yes he did hammer ,but surely a club of celtics stature should have a back-up clause, ie plan b or c ,i would love to know how many players were targeted by celtic .

Daver · 02-09-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

They clearly went for a player(s) and either the money their club wanted was too much or the wages the guy was wanting were too much. i.e. the deals ultimately faltered.

So they didn't falter, say, when the Kaunas result came in? I'm just playing devil's advocate as i for one don't know the ins and outs of every transfer (failed or made) that we have...

**Hammer** · 02-09-2008, 11:04 AM

They stated that our budget was not dictated to by the results of any other club, I have no grounds not to believe that stance.

ChampionsElect · 02-09-2008, 11:05 AM

I think they had targets, who didn't want to come.

They then didn't fancy making panic buys just to please the fans.

In Lawell We Trust!

studatelya · 02-09-2008, 11:16 AM

Being fair we know from wgs that there where players they tried to get but couldnt and with the best will in the world would we rather they signed players just for the sake or would we be happier if they only signed to fill the positions we need filling . I know we need a lb but they seemed to be trying to get one and look at some of the prices like cousin 1.5 mil for a 31 year old wtf

Daver · 02-09-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

They stated that our budget was not dictated to by the results of any other club, I have no grounds not to believe that stance.

Fair play - i really hope you are right in that regard..

Not exactly likely they would turn around and suggest otherwise though, i suppose...

Anyway - we are getting nowhere here, i do suspect. You are saying it's down to inflated fees and wages in the long run...

Looking at the supposed value of Albert Riera, i can't argue with that!