good luck paddy mc court - Page 6 - TalkCeltic

**Paul67** · 23-06-2008, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DobbinS 1888

Whats the point in posting anything positive. Ill post something positive if we sign something positive like Pavlyuchenko or a player that we dont get on a free or bosman, or happens to be under 2 mill

Very weak reply mate. You will only be happy when we spend upwards of £2m on a player, regardless of their quality?

patto · 23-06-2008, 03:31 PM

Maybe you should support Man utd if all your bothered about is signing superstars

geneod · 23-06-2008, 03:34 PM

i dont get how all of you can be complaining about this signing. Its clearly for his potential, and the small transfer fee makes it really low risk. As someone's mentioned in an earlier post, I'd rather this signing than another tommy g anyday

**Dempsey** · 23-06-2008, 08:05 PM

Paddy McCourt will be interviewed on RTE 2 soon about his move to Celtic.

EDIT Right now

Gercelt · 23-06-2008, 08:16 PM

Good luck Paddy!!!!!

Scotia · 23-06-2008, 08:26 PM

best of luck paddy !!! let's give the guy a chance.

morrise · 23-06-2008, 08:30 PM

he played againist PSG in one of the european comps and was brilliant last time i checked they were better quality than the eircom league if he can cut it ag aint PSG the scottish league will be good for him

I hope he makes the doubters believers

venegoorstrokes · 23-06-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Celticnut

I don't see how going back 40 years has any relevance to today Keltoi.Obviously Celtic and Rangers are a class above anything in the Eircom League but your standard SPL team like Aberdeen or Kilmarnock are not that much better than Drogheda or Cork City anymore.

This is largely down to most of the Eircom League teams going proffesional.Looking at recent European results[e.g in the last 5 years] Eircom League teams have knocked out teams of the calibre of Hajduk Split[Then Croation champions],Djungardens,Gothenburg,Malmo and NEC Nijmegen as well as achieving creditable draws against Steau Bucharest,Lille,Deportivo La Coruna and PSG.Derry City also easily knocked Gretna out of the UEFA Cup a couple of years ago.

I'd wager that there is about the same number of former Eircom League players in the EPL than there is former SPL ones..

totally disagree. Every league has a top few teams that dominate. The SPL has two which is a proportionate number of big teams for a wee league in a wee country. The EPL has 4 or 5 but its a bigger league in a much bigger country. Its your top few teams that you judge a league by and if you dont have a couple of strong teams then the league is shite.

OK so a few good results recently but the SPL has had two Uefa cup finals in the last 6 years and a lot of moderate CL success too. Sorry but the SPL is not great but fact are facts, the SPL has quite a lot of glory under its belt for a wee country with 4 of the usual top 10 teams having been in a Euro final in the last 20 years. Thats nearly a Scottish side in a final every 5 years on average which is not bad.

As for number of players in the EPL, the old firm means that a lot of our best players can stay at home and make decent money and get Euro football and glory while the Eurcom league doesnt offer any real opportinites for a decent player so of course they will want out if they are good. So if they had more EPL players it means nothing.

lennon18borocsc · 23-06-2008, 08:38 PM

Good luck paddy! i hope he gets the oppertunity to prove his doubters wrong, lets give him a chance! welcome to paradise.

venegoorstrokes · 23-06-2008, 08:41 PM

BTW, I saw a good lot of clips of McCourt and although the level may not be the best, he looks a player. He actually reminds me of Geordie Best in his style which is not a bad compliment. He looks both skillful and with a good football brain which is something I think Aidan has not developed properly yet. I can see McCourt getting games on either wing.

Doire Bhoy1928 · 23-06-2008, 09:30 PM

Paddy can play on either wing as he is a two footed player. Against the lower teams in the SPL he will shine and gain confidence the more he gets on.

As someone who lived in the same street as Paddy when he was growing up he always had a ball at his feet and usually a Celtic top on his back as did most kids in our neighbourhood.

I don't know were the idea that Paddy didn't stand out in the eircom league came from as that is so far from the truth. He won the player of the year while Kevin Doyle, Hunt and O' Donovan were still playing here.

As for the difference in standards.........the top 4/5 teams in the eircom league would be on a par with the bottom half of the SPL.

Paddy has shone in some big games against decent opposition and I see no reason why he wont produce for the Celts.

Good luck Paddy and I hope you're on when I next get over to CP.

hoopymo · 23-06-2008, 09:41 PM

well theres a different light on that

Celticnut · 24-06-2008, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Keltoi

totally disagree. Every league has a top few teams that dominate. The SPL has two which is a proportionate number of big teams for a wee league in a wee country. The EPL has 4 or 5 but its a bigger league in a much bigger country. Its your top few teams that you judge a league by and if you dont have a couple of strong teams then the league is shite.

OK so a few good results recently but the SPL has had two Uefa cup finals in the last 6 years and a lot of moderate CL success too. Sorry but the SPL is not great but fact are facts, the SPL has quite a lot of glory under its belt for a wee country with 4 of the usual top 10 teams having been in a Euro final in the last 20 years. Thats nearly a Scottish side in a final every 5 years on average which is not bad.

As for number of players in the EPL, the old firm means that a lot of our best players can stay at home and make decent money and get Euro football and glory while the Eurcom league doesnt offer any real opportinites for a decent player so of course they will want out if they are good. So if they had more EPL players it means nothing.

Personally I judge a league by the strength of their mid table teams.I don't think the big 4 are an accurate way to judge a league as the EPL as a whole,same as Celtic and Rangers are not representative of the quality of the SPL as a whole.Mainly because there is such a big gulf in quality between the top and mid table teams.There is a huge difference in quality between the EPL and the SPL and I believe this is better represented by the difference in quality between Tottenham and Falkirk for example than between Celtic and Manchester United.

I was taking the SPL as a league without Celtic and Rangers as they are the type of teams McCourt will be facing week in week out.So taking out Celtic and Rangers who are in a league of their own the difference between the SPL and the Eircom League is marginal.Also taking out the achievements of Celtic and Rangers then European records of SPL teams are not nearly as impressive.I know it might be unfair to just ignore Celtic and Rangers but I was originally replying to the comment that The SPL is a really big step up from the Eircom League when recent results have shown that it isn't that big.Facing Rangers and European teams is a big step up,facing Falkirk and Aberdeen is a much smaller one.

clagan24 · 24-06-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnnybhoyblue

Thats a ridiculuou sstatement mate. I know the eircom league more than you and Pat mccourt s the best and most highly rated player in it.

what are you basing that on?

clagan24 · 24-06-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochdalelad

Have you ever seen him play live??travelled to the Derry to watch him?
Good luck with 4 in a row

yes i have and if you had read through my posts on this thread you would see that i do go to thebrandywell on occassion and dont rate him, he doesn't even stand out in the eircom league IMAO