JVOH - Page 2 - TalkCeltic

rd-67- · 12-05-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by clagan24

well said sir, jan isn't a 30 goal a year striker but his all round play is excellent and he works hard for the team

he works hard couldnt fault him for effort

but come on excellent? sutton was excellent, hartson was excellent

i know its unfortunate for him that our last strikers were all top quality but he's not even close.

clagan24 · 12-05-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rd-67-

he works hard couldnt fault him for effort

but come on excellent? sutton was excellent, hartson was excellent

i know its unfortunate for him that our last strikers were all top quality but he's not even close.

good old nostalgia.

in 5 years time when he's gone people will say he was as good as hartson and sutton. the grass is always greener on the other side

rd-67- · 12-05-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by clagan24

good old nostalgia.

in 5 years time when he's gone people will say he was as good as hartson and sutton. the grass is always greener on the other side

naaa sorry am gna try and be civil here but thats bullshit

**Iron Man** · 12-05-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by clagan24

good old nostalgia.

in 5 years time when he's gone people will say he was as good as hartson and sutton. the grass is always greener on the other side

well put. I bet those who are slagging off JVOH were slagging off Hartson (he's too fat, he's too lazy bullshit) and even Sutton (he doesn't score as often as henrik) too.

clagan24 · 12-05-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rd-67-

naaa sorry am gna try and be civil here but thats bullshit

lol

each to their own eh?

ChampionsElect · 12-05-2008, 01:24 PM

Works hard but he can barely run, has no talent and gives away a ton of fouls.

rd-67- · 12-05-2008, 01:25 PM

lol how could anyone slag off sutton and hartson. well maybe hartson in his last season he was pulling a caravan behind him. speaking of pulling a caravan behind him, remmeber jvoh's chance against rangers first half when he was through on goal but couldnt reach the ball in time?

rd-67- · 12-05-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampionsElect

Works hard but he can barely run, has no talent and gives away a ton of fouls.

yeh thats what i always find. he concedes twice as many fouls as he should win its frustratin as fuck. and also when he or skippy dont get back onside and take the pressure off the oposition defence. makes me wana

sorry for the double post

clagan24 · 12-05-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChampionsElect

Works hard but he can barely run, has no talent and gives away a ton of fouls.

how can you say he has no talent? hope he scores the goal that wins us the league

supermike · 12-05-2008, 01:37 PM

Amazing level of "grass-is-always-greener-itis" here. Venegoor for me will be rememberd much the same as Hartson. But if we take our rose-tinted specs off here Hartson got one hell of a slagging in his last season and now from what people ahrk on about you'd think he was fat Ronaldo.

Maybe Venegoor wasnt as good as Hartson but VOH has been excellent for us and has scored some crucial goals. He also gives the defence a torrid time even if he doesnt score, opening up the chance for impact subs to do even more damage.

ChampionsElect · 12-05-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by clagan24

how can you say he has no talent? hope he scores the goal that wins us the league

Anyone can score a goal, those who do it week in week out are the one's that have true talent. Venegoor misses 100 chances then scores a tap in

Hammer · 12-05-2008, 05:03 PM

Hesselink brings more to the table than Hartson. If Hesselink stays here for a similar time period he'll outscore and out assist him to say otherwise is pure nostalgia and nothing more. Remember the times everyone pulled their hair out about big John for his utter laziness, Hesselink gets it now yet runs far more than Hartson did defies belief.

alsybhoy · 12-05-2008, 05:12 PM

nae point greetin about him he does a sound job scores goals has good work rate .the only thing about him is 2 slow

celticmad117 · 12-05-2008, 05:13 PM

i like JVOH, but his main problem is that he is quite slow.
He gives 100% and and has a very good scoring record for a target man

Keltoi · 12-05-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

Hesselink brings more to the table than Hartson. If Hesselink stays here for a similar time period he'll outscore and out assist him to say otherwise is pure nostalgia and nothing more. Remember the times everyone pulled their hair out about big John for his utter laziness, Hesselink gets it now yet runs far more than Hartson did defies belief.

I agree. When he first arrived he looked an improvement on Hartson. He was being described as a more mobile BBJ. People have forgotten just how slow BBJ was. If it werent for his injury proneness imagine how many JVOH would have scored. That said he is around 30 now and I wouldnt extend his contract. Think next is his last season and thats fair enough. If we can sell him in the summer and get a few million for him then fine as long as we sign better. Problem is getting better in out usual budget range. I think JVOH was vert cheap for a dutch international striker with a great club pedegree. I like the guy and will miss him. Seems a hell of a nice modest bloke. My hot tip is that Sheridan will leapfrog a lot of older players and will be putting JVOH under big pressure next season.