So who feels a fanny now?????

[Henke67]

Originally Posted by justanotheryear

lubo mate none of us know it all.........unfortunatly, bassa/lol

Wrong!
I know it all. That's fact.

[SwoopingVulture]

Originally Posted by Henke67

Whose?

Around the minge area i'd presume.

[Henke67]

As you all know I've always hated Strachan but after the defeat of the scum I think he is rubbish. He got his tactics all wrong again. My bet said 3-0, not 3-2. Get it right next time Gordon or just fuck off back to England.

[Martin]

Originally Posted by SwoopingVulture

I'm just speculating here but it wasn't until the last 16/8 that the games got serious? Unless you were playing the KGB backed Russian teams...

I remember we put out Ajax in 82/83 in one of the early rounds. I think Cruyff was back playing for them.

[Paul67]

Originally Posted by Martin

I remember we put out Ajax in 82/83 in one of the early rounds. I think Cruyff was back playing for them.

George McCluskey and Charlie Nicholas scored in Ajax for a 2-1 win.

[Martin]

I wonder if anyone has got a link to our European games season by season ?

[vcfc]

I don't feel a fanny at all, my opinion is still exactly the same. My opinion on this side coalesced over three years it isnae gonna shift cause we scrape a couple of wins. I said it before, we won the first two titles by default and if we win this year it'll be because Rangers collapse, which it's beginning to look like they will. I've also said this team has two strengths which have served us well - a sound defense, largely due to Boruc and the spirit required to fight till the end. We're showing this in the title race as we have done in so many big matches. Strachan deserves credit for that, although allot of it is transmitted by the demands of the crowd.

However, Rangers handing us the title three years in a row won't make us a good side and whether we win the league or not I want Strachan out the door and I want someone brought in that can deliver entertaining progressive football that's gonna inspire the crowd and get arses back on seats

Rangers handing us the title three years in a row? Who cares if Rangers are shite. If you finish top of the league you are worthy and deserved Champions. At any rate the UEFA cup run proves that Rangers are a pretty effective (extremely boring) team so to finish above them would be a good achievement this season.

Even if we win the league making Strachan officially our most successful manager since Big Jock, you would still want rid of him.

Sometimes I really can't believe what I read on this forum. People mock Real Madrid for the habit of sacking managers even though they have won the league(Capello twice and one other recently as well) yet we have fans saying that they would sack a manager who had won three in a row.

It really is unbelievable.

[vennegoorstokes]

Originally Posted by Hut*Hut

I don't feel a fanny at all, my opinion is still exactly the same. My opinion on this side coalesced over three years it isnae gonna shift cause we scrape a couple of wins. I said it before, we won the first two titles by default and if we win this year it'll be because Rangers collapse, which it's beginning to look like they will. .

So you wont credit him even if he does 3 in a row. lol you really do hate him. thats such a depressing outlook mate. Is it possible for him to do anything good thats down to him or for anything bad to happen thats not his fault.

BTW, I dont condone the really serious girfuy tone of the thread which is a bit too much. The fact we are back on course and players are hitting form should be whats making us happy not point scoring.

[vennegoorstokes]

oh and hut hut. what is better, losing 2 out of 3 leages in 3 years as MON did before he left or winning 2, maybe 3 in a row in a way not to your taste. Thats the crux of what I dont understand about the WGS haters.

[ellboy]

Originally Posted by Keltoi

oh and hut hut. what is better, losing 2 out of 3 leages in 3 years as MON did before he left or winning 2, maybe 3 in a row in a way not to your taste. Thats the crux of what I dont understand about the WGS haters.

It is not alway about results Keltoi.

It is about passion, comitment, heart and desire. You cant say those things where missing in those two seasons that we lost the league under MON by goal difference and a single point.

However the very same things have been missing from this bunch for far to long now. Thankfully these atributes have returned and we now see Celtic playing the way they should have been all season long and for half of the last one.

[vcfc]

It is not alway about results Keltoi.

It is about passion, comitment, Heart and desire. You cant say those things where missing in those two season that we lost the league under MON.

However the very same things have been missing from this bunch for far to long now. Thankfully these atributes have returned and we now see Celtic playing the way they should have been all season long and half of the last.

But it is about results as long as your winning. You could say that passion and everything else you mention has been missing this season but will you care if we still win the league. You don't look back at they two seasons under MON and think 'well we didn't win the league but we were really passionate and tried really hard' do you?

Just the same as if we win the league this season you would be delighted - you wouldn't be saying 'well we won the league but we had no heart, no desire and no passion' - you wouldn't care about that stuff if we were Champions.

[ellboy]

Originally Posted by vcfc

But it is about results as long as your winning. You could say that passion and everything else you mention has been missing this season but will you care if we still win the league. You don't look back at they two seasons under MON and think 'well we didn't win the league but we were really passionate and tried really hard' do you?

Just the same as if we win the league this season you would be delighted - you wouldn't be saying 'well we won the league but we had no heart, no desire and no passion' - you wouldn't care about that stuff if we were Champions.

The ultimate prize is the title and I will be as ecstatic as anyone to retain our flag.

However to me the whole season is what gives me the memories. The Seville Season for me was the most memorable in recent years and we won nothing but the joy that season gave me was amazing.

Too much of this season has been forgettable and that to me is not what I want from my team. "Yes" to win the prize is the ultimate desire but for me as I said the memories of a campaign live longer in the psyche. I would be very surprised if in 5 years time you will remember too much of this season.

[vcfc]

The ultimate prize is the title and I will be as ecstatic as anyone to retain our flag.

However to me the whole season is what gives me the memories. The Seville Season for me was the most memorable in recent years and we won nothing but the joy that season gave me was amazing.

To much of this season has been forgetable and that to me is not what I want from my team. "Yes" to win the prize is the ultimate desire but for me as I said the memories of a campaign live longer in the phsyci. I would be very suprised if in 5 years time you will remember to much of this season.

Agreed but you have gone slightly off toic there Ellboy. You are talking about entertainment and memories.

In terms of keeping his job Strachan, or any other manager isn't or at least shouldn't be judged on entertainment or memories Trophies won is the sign of success and a good job done.

At any rate I would say that yes MON created some amazing memories but WGS teams are at the VERY LEAST as entertaining as MON's.

[vennegoorstokes]

Originally Posted by ellboy

It is not alway about results Keltoi.

It is about passion, comitment, heart and desire. You cant say those things where missing in those two seasons that we lost the league under MON by goal difference and a single point.

However the very same things have been missing from this bunch for far to long now. Thankfully these atributes have returned and we now see Celtic playing the way they should have been all season long and for half of the last one.

I think its just a different type of football. Someone called it the percentages game. We do it because statistically it works most of the time to primarily focus on starving the opposition of the ball at all costs. I remember teams like Villa Real doing it to us but I agree it can be frustrating.

I agree that suddenly the magic ingredient is suddenly there and IMO that seems to have a lot to do with Robson's introduction.

[ellboy]

Originally Posted by vcfc

Agreed but you have gone slightly off toic there Ellboy. You are talking about entertainment and memories.

In terms of keeping his job Strachan, or any other manager isn't or at least shouldn't be judged on entertainment or memories Trophies won is the sign of success and a good job done.

At any rate I would say that yes MON created some amazing memories but WGS teams are at the VERY LEAST as entertaining as MON's.

You are right ultimately the manager is judged on trophies an WGS has a fine record. We could go on about the merits of them but we have done that to death.


You state "WGS teams are at the very least as entertaining as MOn´s". I guess that is all about opinion mine differs from yours we will have agree to dis-agree on that one.

However that does not make me a WGS hater as some may label. Keltoi for instance.