08-04-2007, 09:06 PM
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I don't think Strachan is our man, or is he ?
All season but most recently the team preformance has been insufficient to our position in the spl and the wants of the celtic fans.
So why is there dissapointing game after game ?
1-Strachan doesn't pick or know his best 11
2-Our signings don't have the natural feeling of winning
3-Timing of the subs(was really good last season)
4-Injurys
1- Strachan is playing players in wierd positions(happened last season) This has been seen most with jarosik and BBG. Simply not playing the right players who can win matches and bring entertainment like riordan. Playing players who sit back to far or don't get involved with the game (lennon)
2- Most of or starters have never won a cup etc(jarosik,caldwell, riordan, hartley, naylor +more) They aren't use to increasing their winnings.
3- Players on before half time and nearly at the end of the game.
4-Loads of key players injured and inconsistant players (miller, zurawski, Jvoh)
Strachan always looks like he doesn't really know what he is doing or what effect something is going to have and isn't motivating the players enough.
So if strachan isn't a long term successful manager who can win the spl easy for seasons to come and do well in the champions league.
Someone with the fealing of winning and can really motivate players.
-Paul lambert
-Roy keane
-paul le guen (didn't player for celtic but felt like it)
Someone with a good personality and is new in the football managing area.
Your thoughts ?
Your thought better be good this took a long time to write(edit) Type.
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08-04-2007, 09:18 PM
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i think most off all trophies prove strach is our man, probably 4 trophies out of 6 over two seasons. its fair enuff having ur critisisms of the gaffer, but at then end of of the day its a results driven business. i know a lot of ppl will argue and say wgs has got it easy with lack of competition, but he can only beat whats put in fromt of him. i think he has come a long way since atrmedia bratislava and deserves one more season at least, if ur not the rite manager but yer u win countless trophies, then truth be told then fans will never be happy. as for his signings jarosik has been poor and deep down inside am sure wgs knows that. zurawski wasnt a poor signing, he was very good last season, and has scored near enuff the same amount of goals as jvoh in an injury plagued season. as for the key players being injured, u cant blame strachan unless he is bringing out a sledge hammer during training  . even though naylor etc have never experienced winning leagues etc, they can only gain experience by playing, naylor has been good this season so no complaints. natural born winners usually come at a high cost. i'm sure there will be plenty of money for new players, high quality players and see how it goes from there. if gordon stachan goes out buys no quality players and some st mirren and aberdeen players instead, doesnt qualify for europe, gets humped in the first old firm game, then maybe i'll agree hes not our man. but until such a thing happens keep the faith matey. hail hail
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08-04-2007, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gaffney
All season but most recently the team preformance has been insufficient to our position in the spl and the wants of the celtic fans.
So why is there dissapointing game after game ?
1-Strachan doesn't pick or know his best 11
2-Our signings don't have the natural feeling of winning
3-Timing of the subs(was really good last season)
4-Injurys
1- Strachan is playing players in wierd positions(happened last season) This has been seen most with jarosik and BBG. Simply not playing the right players who can win matches and bring entertainment like riordan. Playing players who sit back to far or don't get involved with the game (lennon)
2- Most of or starters have never won a cup etc(jarosik,caldwell, riordan, hartley, naylor +more) They aren't use to increasing their winnings.
3- Players on before half time and nearly at the end of the game.
4-Loads of key players injured and inconsistant players (miller, zurawski, Jvoh)
Strachan always looks like he doesn't really know what he is doing or what effect something is going to have and isn't motivating the players enough.
So if strachan isn't a long term successful manager who can win the spl easy for seasons to come and do well in the champions league.
Someone with the fealing of winning and can really motivate players.
-Paul lambert
-Roy keane
-paul le guen (didn't player for celtic but felt like it)
Someone with a good personality and is new in the football managing area.
Your thoughts ?
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10 threads at once .... This will be interesting :)
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08-04-2007, 09:51 PM
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paul le guen ??
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08-04-2007, 09:56 PM
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GS is having me guessing these days, the way the team is performing which reflects the coach, even when I hear him speak before and after games its done in a defensive mode.
All indication is he will be at Celtic next season, and we will have new quality players I certainly hope for quite a few should be leaving?
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08-04-2007, 09:57 PM
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He will do for the Spl,but he won't take us to that next level in Europe....Ever
I think that is the Celtic fans goal now.To do something in europe fling a few suprises
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08-04-2007, 10:03 PM
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the next level? wgs achieved sunthing in europe that oneil didnt, so i think he has took us to the next level for the time being
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08-04-2007, 10:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gaffney
All season but most recently the team preformance has been insufficient to our position in the spl and the wants of the celtic fans.
So why is there dissapointing game after game ?
1-Strachan doesn't pick or know his best 11
agreed...but alot ofof obvious selection solutions arent being picked up by him.
2-Our signings don't have the natural feeling of winning
3-Timing of the subs(was really good last season)
agreed once again..its like he's wanting his selection to work instead of when its not working changing it quickly.
4-Injurys
1- Strachan is playing players in wierd positions(happened last season) This has been seen most with jarosik and BBG. Simply not playing the right players who can win matches and bring entertainment like riordan. Playing players who sit back to far or don't get involved with the game (lennon)
agreed.. ive no idea why??
2- Most of or starters have never won a cup etc(jarosik,caldwell, riordan, hartley, naylor +more) They aren't use to increasing their winnings.
3- Players on before half time and nearly at the end of the game.
4-Loads of key players injured and inconsistant players (miller, zurawski, Jvoh)
Strachan always looks like he doesn't really know what he is doing or what effect something is going to have and isn't motivating the players enough.
So if strachan isn't a long term successful manager who can win the spl easy for seasons to come and do well in the champions league.
Someone with the fealing of winning and can really motivate players.
-Paul lambert hmm not convinced
-Roy keane possibility
-paul le guen (didn't player for celtic but felt like it)fuc*in no chance
ill add...
david moyes
Tony mowbary
Guus Hiddink
Someone with a good personality and is new in the football managing area.
Your thoughts ?
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i have never been completely convinced by WGS and im sure we will find out next season wether or not hes our man long term.
Now dont get me wrong he has done reasonably well since coming to CP however....
*he will be given a decent transfer fund next season..i really hope he uses it wisely no more virgo's,camaras etc.
*brataslava and this years stumbling over the finish line definately shows that we have flaws.
*i still dont see a (big occassion) player... u know... a sutton,hartson type of player who when to going gets tough(as it has in the last 4 weeks) will stand up a tell those around him 'lets get right intae these bams!.
Last 16 of the CL... well done wee man,you did us proud..now we need to forget it and use the riches that it delivered wisely....very wisely.the huns done it too but look where they are now..but they will come knocking next year..so as said 3 yes 3 top notch signings will give them a boot in the baws and send them back to mordor with thier tail between thier legs.
Wee man i really do hope you take us to another level finger crossed!... put my mind to rest!.
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08-04-2007, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TIMMY!
He will do for the Spl,but he won't take us to that next level in Europe....Ever
I think that is the Celtic fans goal now.To do something in europe fling a few suprises
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He just has done this season or was that a typing error on your behalf
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08-04-2007, 10:31 PM
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I don't really understand why he can't play different players at different possitions now and again just to see. He's just using the same team most of the time and it's not working. I dunno why he never puts Tommy G on for a full game because maybe that's what we need. He's relying too much on the players that aren't working hard enough or just aren't doing any good anymore.
This next season we really would need to get some good signings if we're going to stand a chance again.
Yep we'd really need a couple of back-ups in case the main strikers or midfielders or that get injured like JVOH and Beattie and that.
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08-04-2007, 10:52 PM
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Strong hint that there is the usual daft heavy bias towards short listing people with Celtic connections. Why limit it to such a small group? That brought us Macari and Brady so lessons should have been learned. How on earth are Lambo and Keane a sound suggestion-they have potential but thats all. They are at least 3 or 4 years away from having the management experience suitable for our great club.
As for our problems in terms of performance this season I think most of it is down to the astonishing injury problems. The crucial partnerships down the spine-centre backs, central midfield and strike pairings have had to chop and change every couple of weeks including an amazing amount of brand new combinations. Such bad injury luck usually costs teams the league and WGS has done very well to get the results with all these chages-its been like involuntary heavy rotatation.
The other thing is the really crucial replacements. Jarosic and Graveson are not as good all round as Petrov and both have fatal flaws (unbelievable lack of pace and positional indiscipline respectively). The creative one of the middle pairing is a crucial position and we have not filled that satisfactorily yet with Hartley also not settling in yet. We also clearly need a new striker and another pacey wide player IMO.
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08-04-2007, 11:57 PM
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Strachan is our man! 4 trophies in 2 seasons second stage of the champions league and if it wasnt for the past month we wouldn't have 2 read this pish about him not being the right man... every manager makes mistakes and sometimes picks the wrong team.... ffs enjoy the rest of the season we are the champions look at the Huns you don't know how lucky you are!!!
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09-04-2007, 12:00 AM
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i am not a strachan fan at all. probably for the reasons that you have mentioned above gaffney. especially playing players out of position seems really strange to me, he must think they can play in these. however it is evident that they cannot. and i don't have a clue what he is doing with riordan. i think he only came on yesterday because (not so) Magic got injured. here is a player that is desperate to get into the team, so he will play well (much better than the others), is eager and we are all in agreement that he should start.
don't get me started on beattie, the guy has the touch of a blind elephant. at the motherwell game, he raced to the penalty box, then stopped!!!! what an idiot! just shows that he is not celtic class.
i like graveson, not because of what he has done at celtic, but since of his past. i really liked him at everton and madrid and i hope he can play more and do the same short of stuff for us. the reluctance to play him by strachan shows that there is something he does not like about graveson. but why buy him then!!! the money we spend on his wages could have easily been used on another player, who he is actually going to use.
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09-04-2007, 01:18 AM
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09-04-2007, 01:23 AM
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